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Wikipedia Yola

Not allowing a test wiki of Wikipedia Yola is unfair, there is a revival movement going on in Wexford. I’m a fluent heritage speaker, Why is it blocked? — The preceding unsigned comment was added by MichaelDMelvin23 (discussioncontribs) 08:57, 8 January 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Because it's extinct. --MF-W {a, b} 10:52, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(the language as follows is written in Yola, translation in English provided at the bottom) Ha, Ye mye no recaul, vor it was lhaung agone dhicka ye reameved mee lethel wiki, an ye ameved an wi yer die, mot ich did no. Ye zeid ee taalke is deed, mot dhicka is no vullie drue. Yee it is no valse dhicka aar ba na gabbleares dhicka ha gabbled ing it zeeth aar lief vell, mot aar is a chi av foulk zitch az meezil fho ar vull boneyes fan it coomes t’gableen ee yola taalke, an dhicka hath pidh wi it t’ba gabbled ing dhicke deem, an by valler foulk neow too! Az ye can zee ‘cham surchteen ing it reicht neow. Ee notheres woull surche laafes vor it too. Cham a zo ee-caulthed “heritage speaker” az woull, ee yola taalke was gabbled bee mee vamilee lhaung avar mee. Wough av ee yola taalke hope dhicke pleast ye woull, an hope ye woull leth ouse pidh wi oure taalke, bee letheen ouse apan a “Test Wiki” an maake it zo zimdie oure gurles, an aar gurles, an zo an, woull hath a weftzite t’do recoard an, ing aar euone taalke. Bless ye vor yer deem. -Kealeen

Hi, You may not recall for it was long ago that you removed my little wiki, and moved on with your day, but I did not. You said the language is dead, but that isn’t fully true. Yes it is true that there are no speakers who have spoken it since they were born, but there is a small amount of people such as myself who are fully capable people when it comes to speaking Yola, and that have helped it to be spoken in this time, and by more people now too! As you can see I’m writing in it right now. The others will write page for it too. I’m a so called heritage speaker as well, Yola was spoken by my ancestors. We of the yola language hope this pleased you well, and hope that you will let us open a “Test Wiki” and make it so that our children, and their children, and so on, will have a website to do research on, in their own language. Thank you for your time -Michael

Please let me know any thoughts or questions — The preceding unsigned comment was added by MichaelDMelvin23 (discussioncontribs) 05:26, 9 January 2022 (UTC).[reply]

@MichaelDMelvin23 Based on your suggestions, Wikisource (to which we don't "incubate" here) is more suitable for your purpose, instead of Wikipedia. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 01:44, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Liuxinyu970226 @MF-Warburg Yola is a revived language and the community deserves a Wikipedia for researching in their own language. The ISO 639-3 code is valid, but was rendered unusable by MF-Warburg. MichaelDMelvin23 (talk) 13:57, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please delete User talk: Vandalism. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh (talk) 18:14, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done. -- MF-W {a, b} 18:59, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia in Yola (2)

Currently still receiving the message “You are trying to create a page without a valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 code” despite that “yol” is a valid ISO code, can anyone explain why this happened? It was working until someone shut down the Incubator Wiki, saying that the language was extinct despite the fact that it is a revived language. Middle English, Old Prussian, Old English, etc all have Incubator tests, so what is the reason why a legitimate, revived language can not have an Incubator test? Thank you for reading, any advice, comments, or feedback would be greatly appreciated as I don’t know where to go from here. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by MichaelDMelvin23 (discussioncontribs) 15:11, 25 January 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Contributing on the TL Wikiquote

Hi, I was just contributing on our local wikiquote, doing some translations. A warning sign has appeared. Error: This action has been automatically identified as harmful, and therefore disallowed. If you believe your edit was constructive, please inform an administrator of what you were trying to do. A brief description of the abuse rule which your action matched is: Bogus" I am contributing on the Central Bikol Wiktionary before I went here. thanks. Cjay Barrameda (talk) 12:26, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That's a false positive. Ping User:Danny B. for checking what can be done. --MF-W {a, b} 13:27, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
As MF-Warburg mentioned above, this was unfortunate false positive. Apologies for inconvenience and thanks for patience. The collected data have been reflected in the updated version and you should not experience any issues now. However, since your language has a specific way of word formation, some other false positive still unfortunately may happen in the future, nevertheless such possible occurrences will be reflected as well as soon as possible.
PS: Please, if possible, in your own interest set and verify your e-mail address in preferences, thank you.
Danny B. 18:07, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

tok code doesn't work

"Tok" is already a legal code, but incubator thinks that This code isn't registered. What should I do?

Pablo Federico Streccia Viera (talk) 18:40, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Does not look like it. --MF-W {a, b} 01:26, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
And This? Pablo Federico Streccia Viera (talk) 15:38, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Tokipona was moved to Fandom, according to Meta. --Mahmudmasri (talk) 17:26, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I see, this is a new code, that's why it's not yet in the Glottolog database. Since this is about a constructed language however (and one that used to have a Wikipedia; the ISO change request also mentions which is linked from the "fandom" page and still seems to be active), it should first be clarified with Langcom if it is accepted as eligible. See m:Language committee/Handbook (requesters) if you want to make a request accordingly. --MF-W {a, b} 23:39, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
FYI, someone submitted m:Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Toki Pona 2. Probably the discussions can be continued at that page instead. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 02:09, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]


I am not allowed to create a talk page for a Coptic page. --Mahmudmasri (talk) 15:12, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You can edit it now. --MF-W {a, b} 23:40, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! So, it seems that every user should be unblocked one by one to be allowed to add pages. Since when? --Mahmudmasri (talk) 02:24, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
No, this is not the case. --MF-W {a, b} 11:45, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I was unlucky, I think :) --Mahmudmasri (talk) 11:50, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I wanted to start a new language edition

I wanted to start a couple of pages in the newly accepted language at SIL International. Code is rsk name of language is Ruthenian or Rusyn. But the incubator did not allow me to post the text and then save it. Please help me start an incubator project.

Keresturec — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Keresturec (discussioncontribs) 03:33, 6 February 2022 (UTC).[reply]

rue: already exists. If you think the newly recognized Pannonian Rusyn (rsk) should have an own wiki, please create a request on Meta first. --MF-W {a, b} 14:39, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I started to creat a request on Meta but if I filled /Wikipedia Ruthenian I didn't get normal form for request then some filled form by the unknown author. How I can get regular, clear request form with questions Keresturec (talk) 04:44, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Please create it at m:Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Pannonian_Rusyn 2 in this case. -- MF-W {a, b} 17:35, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

For the record: Abusefilter was adjusted. --MF-W {a, b} 01:40, 27 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome template translation from cs to en

Hello, I translated the Welcome template from English to Czech, can you please move my user subpage to the approrpiate template translated page? Thank you. — Polda18 (talkcontribs) 08:48, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Danny B.: Could you please check this translation and move the page if you find it fitting? - Xbspiro (talk) 05:05, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Danny B. 10:07, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Leftover pages to be deleted

These read-only pages seem to have been left over after ja.wy got exported (they got imported on the other side):

- Xbspiro (talk) 15:54, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done. --MF-W {a, b} 16:57, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Under the same token:

- Xbspiro (talk) 00:00, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Also done. -- MF-W {a, b} 03:40, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Importing templates to Middle English Wikipedia

Could you please import Template:Main from English Wikipedia to Template:Wp/enm/Mayne Page and Template:See also also for English Wikipedia to Wp/enm/See also]? Thanks in advance, -📜GIFNK📖DLM💻MMXX🏰 (TALK🎙 | CONTRIBS) 16:48, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unable to create an infopage for Wb/ha

I've tried to create an infopage for the Hausa Wikibooks, but I get the "You are trying to create a page without a valid ISO 639-1 or -3 code" error message. I guess the 693-3 code is preferred, but Hausa apparently uses "ha" on Wikimedia. I have just moved content out of Wb/ha, so I am a bit puzzled. - Xbspiro (talk) 23:49, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It's just a problem of our abusefilter, but since these pages don't often need to be created, I figured we could live with it. It's created now. --MF-W {a, b} 11:52, 18 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. - Xbspiro (talk) 22:58, 18 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Realization of the "autotranslate mode" for some help pages

Dear colleagues, are there any objections to moving here the "Autotranslate" template/module and also the "Mediawiki:Lang/*" message group? This is needs for realization of the "autotranslate mode" for some help pages (e.g. for display translations of the "/top" subpages for this noticeboard and also for Incubator:Administrators). --Kaganer (talk) 11:46, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm fine with it. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 14:58, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Why is the Montenegrin incubator inoperable?

I want to create Wp/cnr/ articles in Montenegrin in vain. Does not work. The answer: Error: You are trying to create a page without a valid ISO 639-1 or -3 code. This code either is not valid or does not belong to a language accepted for new Wikimedia projects. If you came here from any other page, please return back and fix the link and then create the correctly named page. If by any chance this is blocking you from creating any page which you think has a valid ISO 639-1 or -3 code or belongs to an accepted language, please let administrators know. Doncsecz~enwiki (talk) 14:15, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Doncsecz~enwiki: What's the page that you are trying to create? --Minorax«¦talk¦» 14:57, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Minorax: Wp/cnr/Agram 2000, Wp/cnr/Amerikanski Crnogorci. In fact, I am unable to do any other article under Wp/cnr. Doncsecz~enwiki (talk)
This is because the project has been rejected by Langcom already. --MF-W {a, b} 17:36, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@MF-Warburg: Do I understand that there will be no Wikipedia in Montenegrin? Doncsecz~enwiki (talk) 18:04, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. --MF-W {a, b} 19:01, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Pardon, I don't know if commenting here would bother you or not, but it looks like the 5th Wikipedia Montenegrin request isn't rejected yet, though I would also agree with its potential rejection. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 13:27, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Error message when trying to create a new page in Ottoman Turkish (ota)

Despite the ISO 639-1 code being correct, I get an error message telling me that I'm using a non valid ISO code when I try to create a new page in Ottoman Turkish. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Elteriş (discussioncontribs) 15:13, 20 February 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Extinct languages are not eligible. --MF-W {a, b} 17:36, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oh okay thank you for your answer but isn't there a project for Ancient Greek ? Also can't we still create some articles just for the historical and cultural interest ? Elteriş (talk) 20:46, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]



rsk is a recently approved ISO 639 code for Pannonian Rusyn. A contributor is trying to create an Incubator in it, and it's blocked.

My impression is that it's sufficiently distinct and can be created. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 16:03, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

See already above at #I wanted to start a new language edition. --MF-W {a, b} 17:37, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, thanks. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 18:01, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

For the record: Abusefilter was adjusted. --MF-W {a, b} 01:40, 27 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 05:59, 27 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I just noticed this had been created, apparently last year. I can edit that page, but trying to edit the redlinked page gets me an error. Arlo Barnes (talk) 07:05, 27 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This is because we have now restricted the creation of pages in languages which are not recognized as individual, living languages, so that their eligibility can be clarified first. Please make a request on Meta (linked from Wp/ldn). --MF-W {a, b} 16:13, 27 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'm confused, isn't that for 'graduating' from Incubator? meta:language proposal policy says "[...] there is an active test project on the Multilingual Wikisource (Wikisource only), Beta Wikiversity (Wikiversity only), or the Incubator (all other projects). A project must start on one of these wikis. This will demonstrate that there is sufficient community to build the project." so I'm unclear which is the cart and which is the horse here. Arlo Barnes (talk) 22:11, 27 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
There are two steps, "eligibility" and "final approval". The latter is about leaving Incubator and getting an own wiki, but the former is about the language itself. See there for some notes about artificial languages already. --MF-W {a, b} 14:25, 28 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
OK, thanks; I've created the page with the template. Arlo Barnes (talk) 22:03, 28 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Swahili Wikiquote page publishing error

Hello there, Recently I was trying to publish a new page in the Swahili Wikiquotes I received the following error:

"Something went wrong You are trying to create a page without a valid ISO 639-1 or -3 code.

This code either is not valid or does not belong to a language accepted for new Wikimedia projects.

If you came here from any other page, please return back and fix the link and then create the correctly named page. If by any chance this is blocking you from creating any page which you think has a valid ISO 639-1 or -3 code or belongs to an accepted language, please let administrators know"

Kindly assist me with this!

--Magotech (talk) 10:41, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for reporting, this was fixed. -- MF-W {a, b} 12:29, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Magotech (talk) 13:50, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Permit me to edit

Hi. Kindly allow me publish my edit. I'm a new user under the Igbo user group.Amaklaka (talk) 13:13, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

User:Amaklaka: please try again now. --MF-W {a, b} 16:27, 14 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Cannot create new page for Wp/tvx

Whenever I try to create a new page for Wp/tvx, it's rejected with an error message:

"You are trying to create a page without a valid ISO 639-1 or -3 code. This code either is not valid or does not belong to a language accepted for new Wikimedia projects.

If you came here from any other page, please return back and fix the link and then create the correctly named page. If by any chance this is blocking you from creating any page which you think has a valid ISO 639-1 or -3 code or belongs to an accepted language, please let administrators know."

The code tvx is a valid ISO 639-3 for sure. It's a dormant language under revitalization and we are even going to teach the language in a school this year. Does anyone know how to fix this? Thanks a lot!--Bellenion (talk) 16:26, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. tvx is assigned an ISO 639-3 code, but its creation is blocked because it is an extinct language. Please see this link. --Sotiale (talk) 09:11, 12 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Hi, can anyone let me know why I’m blocked from creating wp/yol. This links to the ISO 639-3 code which has been valid since 2009. I had been previously able to edit the pages but it’s been blocked for months now, and I’ve received minimal information on why. I was told its because it is extinct, but seeing as thats not an accurate descriptor of the current situation I dont see why a test project on the incubator can’t be allowed. For example, Old Prussian, a language that is in the same situation as Yola, being a previously extinct language with a dedicated revival has a test project on incubator. Any comments on why this is, even if they may seem harsh to the revival movement would be appreciated as we simply don’t know why it is not able to be created, I have had other people reach out to me expressing a desire to help with the project as well, so relaying this information to them is important. --MichaelDMelvin23 (talk) 14:25, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I am trying to create articles in Yola as well and it doesn't let me. I believe some administrator needs to give us permission to write using that code so I would like to request it as well. The language has an ISO code so I believe there shouldn't be any problem with that. --Caro de Segeda (talk) 14:46, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Extinct languages, as has been pointed out to you before, are not allowed for new Wikipedias (see the language proposal policy). Some test-wikis exist here on Incubator for them, but they are relics from before we could enforce this rule automatically. They will eventually be deleted. --MF-W {a, b} 22:31, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
But the thing is that it is not extinct. It has been revived and there are speakers using this language. Caro de Segeda (talk) 06:19, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Please convince SIL of that. --MF-W {a, b} 16:54, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Seem to be block evasion by NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh (talk) 01:04, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A block has been issued. --MF-W {a, b} 11:51, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Protect User talk:Dvdstndvd

Hello, ⁣ Please protect User talk:Dvdstndvd because of vandalism. Thank you. EthanGaming7640 01:10, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That's not necessary for the moment. --MF-W {a, b} 08:41, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Bogus" filter

Hi. I was trying to create the user talk page of a globally blocked IP address. I was informing them they were globally blocked, but the filter above named arrived. It disallowed my action. Can you help, please? --2601:647:6516:18E6:84B5:A861:6C99:57FF 20:00, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There is absolutely no need to do so. Praxidicae (talk) 20:02, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Seems NOTHERE too after meta VOA block. For assistance. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 12:03, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It is not appropriate to write random word content on another user's userpage, and to insert strange content into the page. I have blocked their account. --Sotiale (talk) 12:35, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. :) Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 12:36, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure why this user is creating such short contentless page. Nuke? Thanks. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 12:05, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done. --Sotiale (talk) 12:33, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. :) They seemed to create 2 more but that's before your warning, hope they will stop creating the pages after the warning. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 12:35, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please block; vandalism. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 16:40, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done. --MF-W {a, b} 21:27, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

ojp code doesn't work

ISO639-3 code for Old Japanese exists as "ojp", but it doesn't work here. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by セリック (discussioncontribs) 14:04, 10 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

It's an extinct language, so it's not allowed. --MF-W {a, b} 18:15, 10 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Creating Empty page --MdsShakil (talk) 11:17, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked for 1 week, pages nuked. --MF-W {a, b} 13:19, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Protect User talk:Dvdant

because of vandalism, sockpuppetry, and long-term abuse. EthanGaming7640 16:37, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

And User talk:Antandrus4 EthanGaming7640 16:38, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Not needed, he would just move to a different page. --MF-W {a, b} 20:20, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Interface page for wy/mr

I am requesting move for pages I have created/imported from other wikis to mediawiki namespace. Special:PrefixIndex/User:QueerEcofeminist/pages4wyif/ these are pages I want interface admin to move to relevant namespace and names. If there is something more needed to be done before you move them, let me know. thanks for the help in advance. QueerEcofeminist (talk) 13:32, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@MF-Warburg, Can you help me in this? Sorry I could see only you in active IA on this page, so pinging you. Let me know if I need to make any changes before you move them? QueerEcofeminist (talk) 16:44, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The first two ones are supposed to become MediaWiki:Wy/mr/... pages, correct? What functions do they supply that are currently needed? About the gadgets, I don't think prefixes work for them, but they can be available as general Incubator gadgets, I suppose. --MF-W {a, b} 23:43, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@MF-Warburg right, actually while creating I have kept the full page name as it is. but here it will be all different.
  • MediaWiki:Wy/mr/Common.css
  • MediaWiki:Wy/mr/Common.js
So your saying gadgets don't need prefixes? but they will be for all the projects and those who need it can avail?
Now, I am not sure these gadgets will work here or not as there might be other pages/modules needed for them. But till we have these pages I won't know that. QueerEcofeminist (talk) 04:36, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I can see gadgets files for wp/bgn and wp/khw. Obviously, I couldn't check whether its working or not but there are gadgets pages with prefix. QueerEcofeminist (talk) 04:54, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@QueerEcofeminist: As far as I understand, all of these are exact copies of the same pages on the English Wikivoyage, correct? Have you tested them (in your common.js) to check that they work as they should in the Incubator? If not, please do that first. Then, if they work like they should here, we should include them with mw.loader.load directly from the English Wikivoyage in MediaWiki:Wy/mr/Common.js, so that they stay in sync with the originals. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 21:40, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Jon Harald Søby, I will try in my common js and get back here soon. Thanks for the heads up. QueerEcofeminist (talk) 05:50, 27 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Impossible to create a new page

Hi! I wanna know why the Montenegrin Wikipedia does not allow me to create a new article, but writes about some ISO code. What should I do? — The preceding unsigned comment was added by TheHistoryOFEUROPE (discussioncontribs) 11:43, 19 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

@TheHistoryOFEUROPE See above, there's already a section discuss this matter. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 10:15, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A bug with the editor on Incubator (| pipe symbols are being automatically added before links)

I'm experiencing a weird bug that has never happen on a different Wikimedia project. You can see me removing them on an article in this edit, but this keeps happenening on almost every link every time I start editing a page, and during every such edit I have to make sure to remove somehow automatically added pipe symbols from affected links. There are new pipe links being automatically added for every edit made (i.e. Wy/hbs/Brisel becomes [[|Wy/hbs/Brisel]] and breaks the link). Has anyone experienced this bug here, and where should I submit a bug report if I can? -Vipz (talk) 15:55, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Quick update: I'm not sure yet if it 100% stopped, but they don't seem to be added after disabling AddPrefix gadget in preferences. I'll post another update if I still experience this bug. -Vipz (talk) 16:12, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Vipz: I am working on a replacement for the AddPrefix gadget that fixes this issue (and a slew of other issues). It should be ready soon, I hope. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 22:16, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That's great to hear, however here I am with a quick update... it happened once again with the gadget off. No idea what could be causing it. -Vipz (talk) 22:06, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Vipz: Are you sure it happened while you were editing, and that it hadn't happened to you (or someone else) on the previous save before you started editing? Jon Harald Søby (talk) 21:14, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Jon Harald Søby: the symbols happen to be added to the source code at the moment of clicking Edit and seeing it, not during the edit or after saving. See me removing a couple of ||| in this edit. I was the only one editing that page at the time. -Vipz (talk) 21:28, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The ones you are removing there were added in these 3 edits by another user (who probably had the gadget enabled at the time), so it's safe to say it's not coming from your end when you have the gadget disabled. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 06:54, 27 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Accidental IP edit

Hi, I accidentally made an IP edit to my talk page while being logged out of my account. I'd rather not have my IP visible, so would it be possible to get it removed and if so, how would I go about doing that? --YoungstownToast (talk) 16:54, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I hid it. For the future, it might be advisable to not post the request itself publicly, but to e-mail an admin. --MF-W {a, b} 20:17, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wy/hbs Latin-Cyrillic converter in the future

There is an ongoing effort to support Latin -> Cyrillic converting for Serbo-Croatian Wikipedia, if and when that is implemented, can it be used on Serbo-Croatian Wikivoyage as well? One of my concerns is that the latter was requested with the ISO-639 -3 code [hbs] instead of the one that our other projects use with ISO-639 -1 [sh], could that be an obstacle? I would have personally preferred keeping everything consistent with the latter code, but I'm not the requester. P.S. sorry if this is not the right place to ask, redirect me if so, thank you. -Vipz (talk) 19:19, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Vipz: Yes, if it is approved, we will import it to shwikivoyage and not hbswikivoyage. There is already enough of a mess with language code redundancy/overlap in MediaWiki/Wikimedia, so we're not gonna create more of that unless it's absolutely necessary.
And using the same converter – when it exists – for Wikipedia and Wikivoyage would be no problem whatsoever. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 06:50, 27 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Users Moshidai and Weather Top Wizard


The users User:Moshidai and User:Weather Top Wizard do something similar: create a lot of nearly-identical articles about Japanese articles in various languages.

These articles are useless, and they don't help these languages graduate from the Incubator.

I've already asked User:Moshidai about that, and they kept doing it. User:Weather Top Wizard was not warned about this specific thing before today, but there are requests from other users to stop "helping" them in similar ways.

I recommend that the administrators consider blocking these users and deleting the pages they created. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 08:50, 29 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Try m:SRCU instead? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 03:40, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This reply is really unhelpful and uncalled for. Amir is a very experienced user and if he had wanted to make a request on Meta, he surely would have done so. Unfortunately, it seems to become more and more of a pattern for you to give useless replies on pages which you know are regularly being watched and answered by Incubator admins / Langcom members - but where your "answer" is always just some misleading "go to some random other page instead" or an outlandish statement that something is policy which is not. You should really rethink your participation in these requests. --MF-W {a, b} 22:32, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Striked, I originally guess that they want a checkuser request, my fault. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 01:02, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
User:Amire80: thanks for pointing these out! I also find them very concerning and we regularly have to block similar accounts. I'm asking User:Sotiale to have a look as well. --MF-W {a, b} 22:32, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Moshidai blocked and pages created by him deleted. Looks like a continuation of Special:Contribs/Bosco1122. --MF-W {a, b} 22:36, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Moshidai perfectly matches users who blocked countless times here. But Weather Top Wizard is slightly different, so they don't seem to be the same user as the previously blocked user. This user should be notified if their behavior is appropriate, and if it persists, they will have no other choice. --Sotiale (talk) 09:16, 3 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Change of code uun to pzh

Pazeh language was put under the ISO 639 uun, but it's now assigned with a new code pzh, and someone has move the page WP/uun to WP/pzh.

But I still got warning saying it's not allowed to to create a new entry with the new code. I would like to know how to fix the problem.--Cosinepi-fly (talk) 11:35, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

User:Cosinepi-fly: I have changed the corresponding filter, so that it now recognizes pzh as valid instead on uun. By the way, what is your proficiency in the language? --MF-W {a, b} 22:42, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@MF-Warburg: Many thanks for your help! I would say I am around lower-intermediate level in Pazeh. I study the language with written material and the elders. I can produce some simple sentences, but still have to make use of the dictionary to have a better expression.--Cosinepi-fly (talk) 00:01, 3 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Vandalism. Please block and nuke. Kind regards, — Tulsi Bhagat contribs | talk ] 03:41, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thai Wikivoyage Requests Requiring Administrator and IA Rights

Fixing link on MediaWiki:Wy/th/Common.css

JhsBot broke Thai Wikivoyage's css by moving Wy/th/common.css. I'm requesting edit to MediaWiki:Wy/th/Common.css, changing the link from "//" to "//". I know this is not secure but it is probably the best way to do it for now. --Bebiezaza (talk) 06:51, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I moved the contents to the MediaWiki page and deleted the main space page. That's a sneaky workaround someone introduced there years ago, but we certainly don't want to get css (or js) from a page editable by everyone. --MF-W {a, b} 01:58, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Wy/th/Common.js's content model should be changed to JavaScript. And please add importScript("Wy/th/Common.js"); to MediaWiki:Wy/th/Common.js, if possible. --Bebiezaza (talk) 06:51, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not possible per above. As the main space "js" page was now empty, I deleted it. --MF-W {a, b} 01:59, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Change the content model

Module:Wp/ryu/Navbox is not recognized as a Lua module. I heard that it is necessary to change the content model to "Scribunto" to solve this. Can you please? 春春眠眠 (talk) 12:38, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  Done Jon Harald Søby (talk) 16:58, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you!! 春春眠眠 (talk) 05:58, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]


I am trying to create a wikipage for Monégasque, and the list said that the 2 letters mu were not being used. Nerbata (talk) 20:35, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

en:Monégasque dialect does not have an own ISO 639-3 code. --MF-W {a, b} 12:34, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

MediaWiki:Administrated test wikis.json

Hello! I renamed. [1] So, please change "春春眠眠" in MediaWiki:Administrated test wikis.json to "Syunsyunminmin". Thank you!--Syunsyunminmin (talk) 04:53, 5 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  Done NinjaStrikers «» 05:29, 5 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Can't create Wb/fj, even though the test wiki was already opened by someone else

I was trying to fix the fact that the Fijian Wikibooks has been already opened by someone else but Wb/fj has no content, even though it should. However, I get a message saying that the ISO code is invalid, even though it is not (the ISO code for Fijian is "fj"). Can someone help? 04:33, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Pardon, is there anyone following this page to help? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 10:15, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Done, sorry, I'd completely missed this one. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 16:36, 22 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

To became an administrator.

How can i became an administrator of my language's test Wikipedia? — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Saeedmoin (discussioncontribs) 19:24, 22 July 2022 (UTC).[reply]

You may want to read the I:A#Test-administrators page itself. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 10:17, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unable to create a page

I wasn’t able to create a page named “Îagûara” under Old Tupian Wikipedia (its ISO 639-3 is tpw). This is what I wrote: [[File:Dogbilly.jpg|Îagûara Billy seryba'epûera ra'angaba|thumb]] '''Îagûara''' (nda [[îagûareté]] ruã) so'o [[i kamyba'e]]. A'e [[so'ogûara]]. Sekobé pukuî, 10–20 ro'y kûabi. "Îagûara abá raûsuparetéramo oîkó", e'i amõ abá. [[Category:Wp/tpw]]. I’m quite sure it’s grammatically correct. RodRabelo7 (talk) 19:31, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Old Tupí(tpw) is an extinct language. Therefore, it is not eligible as a language for test projects under current policy. That is why your page has not been created. --Sotiale (talk) 09:54, 28 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Requesting xml file of deleted pages

I would like the XML files of the category Wp/enm That was deleted on the first of June, 2022. Sirlazareed110 (talk) 13:57, 30 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

An administrator keep undeleting test pages

Hello, I have notice that an admin, User:Jon Harald Søby, keep undeleting a test page which deleted by 2 different admins. And even creating a category for the test page after the test page being deleted twice. I found that it is quite disruptive as there are already a test wiki for admins to test. I hope someone can aware this issue. 01:16, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Who is it actually disrupting…? It is clearly a test page (its name is "Test"), it uses a private use language code (so no real language will ever use that code), and it is temporary – I will delete it once the testing is done. I was not fully aware of that test project though (that is, I stumbled across it once, but then forgot its language code) – had I been, I would have used it instead. I will move my test pages over there. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 11:09, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Request for protect

Please protect Wy/hbs/Turska.

Reason: Repeating spam. --Syunsyunminmin (talk) 14:32, 16 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I deleted it instead as it was a copy from the English version that didn't get any translations or other editing. --MF-W {a, b} 16:54, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Requesting semiprotection on my talk page

My talk page here has been the target of some bizarre edits again. Since I don't participate on Incubator whatsoever, I would like to request indefinite semiprotection on User talk:WindTempos.

Cheers, WindTempos (talk) 11:23, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  Done --Minorax«¦talk¦» 11:52, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The 'neu' code

Hi everyone, I tried to create Wp/neu with related subpages but the system doesn't allow me to do it. The code is for the en:Neo language. Yes it's a constructed language and is not extremely popular among auxlang enthusiasts but I can't say it's not presented at all in Internet ([2][3][4] + a translated book, just examples). Could somebody help please? Wolverène (talk) 01:24, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unable to create Fijian Wikivoyage

I can't create Wy/fj because apparently the ISO code is incorrect, even though it is correct because the Fijian Wikipedia is fj:wikipedia: and the Fijian Wiktionary is fj:wiktionary:. Admins, please fix this as soon as possible. Thanks. Na Vosa Vakaviti Wiki (talk) 09:19, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I created the page. --MF-W {a, b} 12:12, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
And how about the Wikibooks one (asked by else above)? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 02:53, 22 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unable to continue setting up Lao Wikinews

I can't create the test wiki page for Lao Wikinews, even though it has a correct ISO code. I have created the main page for wn/lo as well. SpyridisioAnnis (talk) 03:59, 17 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Which languages do you speak? --MF-W {a, b} 08:54, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unable to create page

Hello, I am not able to create this page.

You are trying to create a page without a valid ISO 639-1 or -3 code.

This message is displayed when creating a page. Saroj Uprety (talk) 16:23, 21 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently, FuzzyBot deleted this, but it still shows up as a red link when my interface language is set to English and I try to create a new article from scratch. (Translated) messages appear in its place properly when changing the interface language. - Xbspiro (talk) 15:54, 25 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

User:Jon Harald Søby: How can we fix this? Via MediaWiki:Newarticletext? --MF-W {a, b} 01:05, 28 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hunsrik Testwiki Common.css

I've added a Common.css code into MediaWiki talk:Wp/hrx/Common.css, could it please be moved to MediaWiki:Wp/hrx/Common.css? Thanks! Iohanen (João) (talk) 03:39, 30 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

common.css for wp/rki

May I request to create MediWiki:Wp/rki/Common.css with the content from MediaWiki talk:Wp/rki/Common.css? Thanks! NinjaStrikers «» 05:13, 4 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Ninjastrikers:   Done Jon Harald Søby (talk) 12:10, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am unable to create a page

Hello. When I try to create a main page for a test Wikinews it says that the language doesn't have a valid ISO 639-1 or a valid ISO 639-3 code. However, the language has both. I've tried making the page use Lat and La, and yet neither seems to work. The page is here. Thanks! Helloheart (talk) 04:23, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Helloheart: Hi. As you saw on Wn/la before you yourself edited it, the Latin Wikinews has been rejected by the language committee. That's the reason it is not listed as a valid language, so that people won't waste their efforts on a project that will not get approved. I will now revert your edits to Wn/la. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 12:39, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Report concerning of User:Tokyo er veldig landlig

Syunsyunminmin (talk) 09:48, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Syunsyunminmin: Thanks! The account has already been globally locked, and all their edits have now been deleted. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 12:32, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wq/Om Wikiquote

I tried repeatedly but couldn't create a Page. Please fix this problem for us soon..... . Wait for U.... — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ahrada2021 (discussioncontribs) 14:21, 19 December 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Should be fixed. --MF-W {a, b} 13:25, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]