Incubator:Administrators' noticeboard

This is the page to request attention from test administrators, administrators and bureaucrats. Note what they can do.

Administrators can:

• protect and unprotect pages
• delete and undelete pages
• delete images and other uploaded files
• block and unblock users
• edit the interface and other protected pages
• use the built-in rollback functionality

Test administrators can do the same (except protecting and unprotecting pages), but only within their tests (therefore they cannot edit the interface).

• Exception: As rollback is only appropriate to use in cases of vandalism, test-administrators can use that feature anywhere they see vandalism.

Bureaucrats can do all the above, as well as:

• grant administrator/bureaucrat status
• grant/revoke test-administrator status
• grant/revoke bot flags
• rename users [now mostly obsolete in favor of global accounts and unified login]

Note: Only Stewards may remove adminship or bureaucratship. If you want this to be done go to Requests for permissions at the Meta-Wiki.

If there is no response, you may wish to try the IRC channel, #wikimedia-incubator.

• For deletion requests, use I:RFD for test deletions and {{delete}} for speedy deletions.
• For user rights (admins, test-admins, bots, ...) or renamings, see I:A.

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Requesting xml file of deleted pages

I would like the XML files of the category Wp/enm That was deleted on the first of June, 2022. Sirlazareed110 (talk) 13:57, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

An administrator keep undeleting test pages

Hello, I have notice that an admin, User:Jon Harald Søby, keep undeleting a test page which deleted by 2 different admins. And even creating a category for the test page after the test page being deleted twice. I found that it is quite disruptive as there are already a test wiki for admins to test. I hope someone can aware this issue. 49.197.238.30 01:16, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

Who is it actually disrupting…? It is clearly a test page (its name is "Test"), it uses a private use language code (so no real language will ever use that code), and it is temporary – I will delete it once the testing is done. I was not fully aware of that test project though (that is, I stumbled across it once, but then forgot its language code) – had I been, I would have used it instead. I will move my test pages over there. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 11:09, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

Request for protect

Please protect Wy/hbs/Turska.

Reason: Repeating spam. --Syunsyunminmin (talk) 14:32, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

I deleted it instead as it was a copy from the English version that didn't get any translations or other editing. --MF-W {a, b} 16:54, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

Requesting semiprotection on my talk page

My talk page here has been the target of some bizarre edits again. Since I don't participate on Incubator whatsoever, I would like to request indefinite semiprotection on User talk:WindTempos.

Cheers, WindTempos (talk) 11:23, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Done --Minorax^«¦talk¦» 11:52, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

The 'neu' code

Hi everyone, I tried to create Wp/neu with related subpages but the system doesn't allow me to do it. The code is for the en:Neo language. Yes it's a constructed language and is not extremely popular among auxlang enthusiasts but I can't say it's not presented at all in Internet ([1][2][3] + a translated book, just examples). Could somebody help please? Wolverène (talk) 01:24, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Unable to create Fijian Wikivoyage

I can't create Wy/fj because apparently the ISO code is incorrect, even though it is correct because the Fijian Wikipedia is fj:wikipedia: and the Fijian Wiktionary is fj:wiktionary:. Admins, please fix this as soon as possible. Thanks. Na Vosa Vakaviti Wiki (talk) 09:19, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

I created the page. --MF-W {a, b} 12:12, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

And how about the Wikibooks one (asked by else above)? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 02:53, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

Unable to continue setting up Lao Wikinews

I can't create the test wiki page for Lao Wikinews, even though it has a correct ISO code. I have created the main page for wn/lo as well. SpyridisioAnnis (talk) 03:59, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

Which languages do you speak? --MF-W {a, b} 08:54, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

Unable to create page

Hello, I am not able to create this page.

You are trying to create a page without a valid ISO 639-1 or -3 code.

This message is displayed when creating a page. Saroj Uprety (talk) 16:23, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Newarticletext-withprefix/en

Apparently, FuzzyBot deleted this, but it still shows up as a red link when my interface language is set to English and I try to create a new article from scratch. (Translated) messages appear in its place properly when changing the interface language. - Xbspiro (talk) 15:54, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

User:Jon Harald Søby: How can we fix this? Via MediaWiki:Newarticletext? --MF-W {a, b} 01:05, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

Hunsrik Testwiki Common.css

I've added a Common.css code into MediaWiki talk:Wp/hrx/Common.css, could it please be moved to MediaWiki:Wp/hrx/Common.css? Thanks! Iohanen (João) (talk) 03:39, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

common.css for wp/rki

May I request to create MediWiki:Wp/rki/Common.css with the content from MediaWiki talk:Wp/rki/Common.css? Thanks! Ninja✮Strikers ^«☎» 05:13, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

@Ninjastrikers: Done Jon Harald Søby (talk) 12:10, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

I am unable to create a page

Hello. When I try to create a main page for a test Wikinews it says that the language doesn't have a valid ISO 639-1 or a valid ISO 639-3 code. However, the language has both. I've tried making the page use Lat and La, and yet neither seems to work. The page is here. Thanks! Helloheart (talk) 04:23, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

@Helloheart: Hi. As you saw on Wn/la before you yourself edited it, the Latin Wikinews has been rejected by the language committee. That's the reason it is not listed as a valid language, so that people won't waste their efforts on a project that will not get approved. I will now revert your edits to Wn/la. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 12:39, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

Report concerning of User:Tokyo er veldig landlig

• Tokyo er veldig landlig (talk | contribs) - reason: w:ja:LTA:SLIME. Please block user and delete user’s edit.

Syunsyunminmin (talk) 09:48, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

@Syunsyunminmin: Thanks! The account has already been globally locked, and all their edits have now been deleted. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 12:32, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

Wq/Om Wikiquote

I tried repeatedly but couldn't create a Page. Please fix this problem for us soon..... . Wait for U.... — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ahrada2021 (discussion • contribs) 14:21, 19 December 2022 (UTC).

Should be fixed. --MF-W {a, b} 13:25, 21 December 2022 (UTC)

Unable to create a page

The abuse filter says to me:"invalidcode" but the Yandang have a code, and this code is yan— The preceding unsigned comment was added by 197.61.9.13 (discussion • contribs) --Syunsyunminmin (talk) 05:00, 9 January 2023 (UTC).

Not an admin, but I'm not sure which one language are you asking for? Yandang refers to Yendang language (iso639-3:ynq), not iso639-3:yan which is a dialect of Sumo, both are from distinct language families. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 03:17, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

Request for page-moving w/o rd

Could I have the ability to move pages without leaving a redirect? Some pages in the Dargin project mix Latin and Cyrillic (primarily using the Latin vowel I for palochka), and should be cleaned up before it goes live.

Also, I tried JS Wiki Browser here, but it just spins w/o doing anything. Do I need special permission? It doesn't say I do, as it would on other sites. Kwamikagami (talk) 22:37, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

@Kwamikagami Hi, Test-administrators are allowed to move a page without leaving redirect within their test project. You can request for it if the requirements are met. Ninja✮Strikers ^«☎» 13:24, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

Wp/lut/Common.css

Hello, I want to change the font-family for headers in Wp/lut because it is causing display issues with the default font.

I put code that I think will do that in MediaWiki_talk:Wp/lut/Common.css. Could someone take a look and create MediaWiki:Wp/lut/Common.css?

You can see an example of the display issues in the headers for the sləx̌il and q̓il̕bid pages. AdJHu • 胡安祝 22:48, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

@AdJHu: I'm not sure if it prints out the way you want. Would you like to check it? --Sotiale (talk) 12:51, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

@Sotiale: Thanks, that fixes the issues I saw with the “x wedge” and “glottalized l” characters. There’s probably a font that makes the kerning for the apostrophe in glottalized characters look better but I’ll look into that in the future. AdJHu • 胡安祝 13:50, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

{wq/sw}Unable to publish

Hellow am trying to publish a new article in the wikiquote swahili but it is being block. kindly may you assist Frank kisamo (talk) 19:04, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

@Frank kisamo Hi, may I know more detail info for the block like blocking messages or something? Ninja✮Strikers ^«☎» 13:16, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

Unable to create Wp/cnr/ page

Hello! I want to add some more pages to Montenegrin Wikipedia, but I'm getting an error: "You are trying to create a page without a valid ISO 639-1 or -3 code. This code either is not valid or does not belong to a language accepted for new Wikimedia projects. If you came here from any other page, please return back and fix the link and then create the correctly named page. If by any chance this is blocking you from creating any page which you think has a valid ISO 639-1 or -3 code or belongs to an accepted language, please let administrators know."

error screenshot

Montenegrin language has valid ISO 639-3 code, check here or here. Also, there is already 1,968 articles with wp/cnr prefix.

Please, explain what is going on and how to enable adding pages to this Wiki. Thanks! Millodarka (talk) 22:05, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

This also got reported at phab:T330029 --AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 22:39, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

Hi, could you add this file in Wp/sjd/Common.css?

https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Wp/sjd/Common.css Kaarkemhveel (talk) 11:44, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

About The 'juc' code

I tried to create Wp/juc with related subpages but the system doesn't allow me to do it. The code is for the en:juc language. Could somebody help please?Sdf (talk) 08:59, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

Hi. Because juc is classified in ISO 639-3 code as an extinct language, editing on incubatorwiki is blocked. Since this was decided in June 2022, the juc pages created before that exist. --Sotiale (talk) 10:30, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

And Wp/zkt is as well? Sdf (talk) 11:13, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

Since zkt is currently classified as a historical language, it is blocked for another reason. Under the current LPP, historical and extinct languages at least cannot have Wikipedia. --Sotiale (talk) 12:17, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

wikilove icons

i see wiki-love icons are broken.

Sakura emad (talk) 09:08, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

User talk:FuzzyBot

Please protect this page: Nonsense content. Tryvix1509 (talk) 08:56, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

Done with semi-protection for one month. Ninja✮Strikers ^«☎» 09:44, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

Please enable adding new pages to Montenegrin Wikipedia

Hi there, me again.

There was no reply on this one https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Incubator:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Unable_to_create_Wp/cnr/_page, so I posted the same question on a few different places (here and here).

I got answer on Phabricator and it pointed me back on Administrators' noticeboard.

So, please can you change the filter as suggested? Or, if the Syunsyunminmin is not right about the solution for this problem, explain what is happening and how to fix it.

Thanks! Millodarka (talk)

I think "cnr" meets Language_proposal_policy.

1. Wp/cnr doesn't have a wiki yet. (Special:SiteMatrix)
2. cnr is a valid ISO code[4].
3. cnr is Individual, not Macrolanguage.
4. The filter is preventing it.

Are there any policies that I don't know about? Syunsyunminmin (talk) 13:31, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

It's disallowed because Montenegrin is not recognized as an eligible language. A 5th request (after 4 rejections already) is open but unlikely to be accepted. --MF-W {a, b} 22:14, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

So, are you saying Montenegrin Wiki can't be developed any further in the incubator? Millodarka (talk) 22:37, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

Hi @MF-Warburg!

Hope you can be a bit more elaborate and precise in your reply...

How and where you see exactly _{*(reference missing)} it is not recognized as an eligible language?

Where do you see (non) likeliness being _{*(an official)} feature and process stopper?

Thank you very much!

--Zblace (talk) 07:15, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

Hello I blocked by spamfilter

trying to create Wp/pt-pt/Página_principal says the urlis wrong Wkperson10 (talk) 20:56, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Yes, because pt-pt is not a valid code according to the policy. There is already a Wikipedia in Portuguese, you are welcome to edit there instead. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 08:26, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

KH Khmer Code

It is not letting me create a KH Khmer page for wikipedia. Яйс (talk) 16:15, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Oops I just found out it already exists, sorry! Яйс (talk) 16:20, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

The handling of Wp/izh

Good evening. I've been trying to edit the Ingrian Wikipedia test in the last few days, and I've noticed a lot of systematic errors present in most pages - grammatical mistakes, usage of Finnish borrowings where a native term already exists, stub entries with nothing but "X is a letter" etc. Now, I would be more than willing to help out (as witnessed by my recent contributions), but the sheer amount of pages to fix (683!), and considering the fact that even on the main page there are some very basic grammatical errors (Wikipedias instead of Wikipediaas, terve instead of tere), and that the article about Ingrian itself is a copy-paste of a grammar book, makes this a nearly insurmountable task.

I'm not sure what the best course of action would be here. Should we start again? Should we try to fix it all? Neither seem ideal. From what I can see, I'm the only somewhat active editor at the moment. Is there any precedent for handling these situations?

Thanks in advance. Thadh (talk) 19:21, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

@Thadh: Sorry about that! Most of the top contributor (in terms of number of edits) to the Ingrian Wikipedia are so-called "language hijackers" (people who claim to know a language but really don't) that are now either permanently blocked or inactive. There is a change they may actually all be sockpuppets of the same person. It seems like a huge mess, to be honest.

I have a proposal for you that is sort of mid-way between fixing everything and deleting everything: We make a (temporary) template called {{Wp/izh/Keep}}, and you can add that template to pages that should be kept. Once you think it is ready, we can delete everything that is not marked by that template.

This proposal will require a bit of manual work on your part (since you're the one who knows the language), but I think it could be done rather quickly. What do you think, does that sound like a possible solution? An alternative would be to mark stuff that should be deleted with {{delete}}, but given the ratio of pages that should be kept vs. pages to be deleted, I think it would be easier to mark the ones that should be kept. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 02:27, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

@Jon Harald Søby: Yes, that sounds like a great solution, thank you! Thadh (talk) 07:33, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

Help to create Wp/vjk/Main Page

Please help to create Wp/vjk/Main Page for Bajjika Wikipedia. It has valid ISO Code vjk as per https://www.ethnologue.com/language/vjk/ The request has been placed in Meta as well. But while creating, this message is displayed, "vjk" Wikipedia (unknown language code). Thanks Angpradesh (talk) 18:55, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

The ISO 639-3 code you presented was approved on January 20 of this year. So it hasn't been reflected here yet? @MF-Warburg: Could you please help me with this procedure? --Sotiale (talk) 05:52, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

The edit filter has been adjusted. --MF-W {a, b} 08:41, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

Wb:ie

Hi! I would like to request help to move the articles from the Interlingue Wikibooks to the Incubator as there is community that will start working on this project. --Caro de Segeda (talk) 17:25, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

Also, the system says that I am trying to create a page without a valid ISO 639-1 or -3 code, when there is already a Wikipedia in Interlingue with its ISO-3 code (ie.wikipedia.org). --Caro de Segeda (talk) 17:59, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

The edit filter has been adjusted. --MF-W {a, b} 09:18, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

Thank you so much. Caro de Segeda (talk) 09:21, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

Wp/ja-simple

I tried to create a "Simple Japanese Wikipedia" and named the project "ja-simple" in accordance with the French version of the project name. However, the language code "jp-simple" does not exist, so I could not create it as an ordinary user. Please create the project as the project may not be as simple as the simple-French version. Thank you (I am not a Japanese speaker, so the sentence may seem a bit puzzling).--Kouichi Fan (talk) 11:24, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

You have already been informed on the Community Portal that new simple projects are not possible. --MF-W {a, b} 11:52, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

"Nrn" ISO 639 code

The code "Nrn" isn't working, but it is assigned to the Norn language. Due to this, a Norn test Wikipedia can't be created, so something will have to be done. That Northern Irish Historian (talk) 00:19, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

• Comment - nrn is extinct[5]. Therefore it does not meet the policy. (Requisites_for_eligibility#4.)--Syunsyunminmin (talk) 05:41, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

Reporting vandalism

Dear administrators,

Sorry for the inconvenience, I am contacting you about a user that I reverted for vandalism in case of the SWMT, that spams me on my incubator talk page and doing vandalism on your wiki, can you help me ? She also created my user page to vandalized it (if it's possible to delete it). Here the account, User:XENONISM.

Best regards, ShifaYT (talk) 12:41, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

+1, please intervene TenWhile6 (talk) 14:08, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

The user also attempted to manipulate this message. TenWhile6 (talk) 14:11, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

Comment - I did minimal blocking until the regular admin came in. Syunsyunminmin (talk) 14:19, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

Block for The Destructor of Everything

• The Destructor of Everything (talk | contribs)
• Report reason: Evidently a vandalism-only account.

Leonidlednev (talk) 15:07, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

WRONG!!! it is YOU who are the vandal mr leon!!! how DARE you try and revert my constructive edits by adding in blatant VANDALISM!!! you my friend, will face the WRATH of THE DESTRUCTOR!!!!

DESTRUCTOR OUT!!! The Destructor of Everything (talk) 15:50, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Comment - I blocked for one day until handled by a regular administrator. Syunsyunminmin (talk) 15:55, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Block for trolls

• The Destructor of Wikis (talk | contribs)
• The Switchster (talk | contribs)
• The Grand Bot Master (talk | contribs)
• Report reason: Vandalism-only accounts, sockpuppets of The Destructor of Everything

Leonidlednev (talk) 16:29, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Comment - I blocked The Destructor of Wikis for one day until handled by a regular administrator. Syunsyunminmin (talk) 17:14, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Create Main Page

Hi, I need help by creating the page Wp/crh-ro/Main Page. Zolgoyo (talk) 19:54, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

crh: already exists. crh-ro is not eligible for a separate project. --MF-W {a, b} 11:28, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

What's the problem actually, the code? Zolgoyo (talk) 19:05, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

Wikivoyage Nepali

Trying to create pages for Wy/ne, but upon saving it says, "you are trying to create a page without a valid ISO 639-1 or -3 code." could someone please help sort it out? Kind regards, — Tulsi 24x7 09:45, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

@Tulsi: Sorry about that, that was a misbehaving abuse filter. It should be fixed now. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 11:09, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Thank you. \o/ — Tulsi 24x7 13:39, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Template talk:Test wiki/639-3

The wiki won't let me create a page here. Rich Farmbrough (talk)

It cannot be created because it is a page without a prefix. What did you want there? Syunsyunminmin (talk) 16:45, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

I was going to leave a comment to the effect that the translation from 639-1 to 639-3 is flawed, there is no concept of a macrolanguage in 639-1. I really can't see why discussion pages shouldn't be edited. Rich Farmbrough (talk)

@Rich Farmbrough: Sorry about that, it is a quirk of the WikimediaIncubator extension. If you change your "test project" in the preferences to "(maintenance)", you should be able to create the talk page. I've filed a bug about this and will try to fix that when I have time for it. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 11:02, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! Rich Farmbrough (talk) 20:19, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

Block for 189.202.29.69

• 189.202.29.69 (talk | contribs)
• Report reason: Open proxy (Used by GRP)
• Also semi-protect Incubator talk:Administrators/Archive1

Leonidlednev (talk) 04:19, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

Comment - IP is already Gblocked. Looking at the history of Incubator talk:Administrators/Archive1, it would be a good idea to semi-protect it indef or long term. Syunsyunminmin (talk) 19:11, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protect for Incubator talk:Administrators/Archive1

Please semi-protect Incubator talk:Administrators/Archive1.
Reason: excessive vandalism. Syunsyunminmin (talk) 16:59, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

I think there's no use. This way these edits not caught by the abuse filter at least appear on watchlists. --MF-W {a, b} 09:36, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

It is very unfortunate that the LTA cannot be captured by the filter. However, The only history on this page for the past 3 years is vandalism and its revert, not just recent LTAs. Additionally, this page is an archive; IPs do not need to be able to edit it. Syunsyunminmin (talk) 14:33, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

41.217.50.177

• 41.217.50.177 (talk | contribs)

Reason: LTA. Syunsyunminmin (talk) 14:29, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

Can't create a page on a test wiki for a language with ISO code

I can't create a page in Montenegrin, ISO code is 639-2 and 3 [cnr] but it won't allow me. Blu145 (talk) 17:41, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

This matter is already discussed above where an administrator denied at the moment. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 04:17, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

I saw that but his response was very unprofessional. If there are established rules on Wikipedia, you cannot just express your personal opinion that something "is not a recognized language" when it literally has a valid code and 250,000 speakers. Blu145 (talk) 06:42, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

Semiprotect Wp/izh/Stalin

Could one of the local admins semiprotect Wp/izh/Stalin please? It's being targeted by a persistent LTA who uses a VPN. Blocking the individual IPs doesn't do much good because he just gets another. Thanks in advance - Antandrus (talk) 16:13, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

Done Syunsyunminmin (talk) 16:59, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

Wrong in Main Balochi Language(bal) writing articlr

I tries to wrote article in Balochi wikipedia incubator but i cant to publish article because its forbidden i think, I request to Incubator administrators to accept writing in Balochi wikipedia(bal)

Our team is trying to developement of Balochi language in web and wikipedia is in our programs. Moshtank (talk) 06:14, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

This is because bal is defined as a macrolanguage. See Wp/bal for the languages contained in it. --MF-W {a, b} 09:30, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

Balochi is not a macrolanguage i as a Baloch and with native Balochi language and i a researcher of Balochi language know that Balochi is not a macrolanguage and we for writing just use one Balochi not three macrolanguages

Its our langugae and its our rights that write and reads in Balochi language, but you that dont know a little things about our langugae saying us about our language?

Moshtank (talk) 05:05, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

@Moshtank Balochi is not a macrolanguage? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 01:41, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

@Liuxinyu970226 Yes, is not.

Moshtank (talk) 04:59, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

@Moshtank Then it's a matter at SIL depart, you'll need to submit a request to deprecate member language codes and design Balochi (bal) as an Individual code. Otherwise, there's probably nothing Incubator can do. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 05:04, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

@Liuxinyu970226 thats true i has contacting with them!

Thanks!

Moshtank (talk) 05:11, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

@Liuxinyu970226 Until SIL accept our request we will work on bcc

If you can please help us and fix Wp/bcc/بیتکوین issues.

Moshtank (talk) 05:13, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

Block request

Please block 2A02:4780:1:17:0:0:0:E (talk | contribs) due to abuse on Incubator (I have reverted their edits). 64andtim (talk) 19:39, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

Done Syunsyunminmin (talk) 06:01, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

Wp/mni-beng as a test wiki

I want to start a new test wiki for Meitei language alias Manipuri language (ISO code: mni) but in Bengali script (ISO code: Beng). Earlier, Meitei language wikipedia (mni.wiki) was successfully approved as a wikipedia from here. But it's written in Meitei script (ISO code: Mtei). Since mni wiki (in Mtei script) already exist, may I be given the permission to create a test wiki with a prefix "Wp/mni-beng" or "Wp/mni-Beng" (a combination of ISO codes of mni language and beng script)? Important to note is that Meitei language is widely written in Bengali script in Bangladesh as well as India despite the revival of Meitei script. Both Mtei script and Beng script are official scripts for mni language in Manipur. Bengali script is still used in (1) Indian Prime Minister's Office for writing Meitei language, (2) Vikaspedia (Government of India's agriculture encyclopedia), (3) Manipur Government's official websites (other than English) and in various newspapers too. I tried to create a page with the very prefix but it's not possible, as a notice box appeared saying it's wrong prefix or if not, I should request to admins to allow the prefix to be unblocked from the auto-block. Haoreima (talk) 10:18, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

Ideally, both scripts should be used in one wiki. Is it maybe possible to add a script converter on mniwiki? --MF-W {a, b} 14:44, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

MF-W Sir! We don't have that mechanism as of now. Plus, the Bengali script using Meitei language has heavy Bangladeshi accent, vocabulary, style that it can be considered as a separate dialect in some case. Even the Ethnologue stated this fact. For that, we also have w:Bangladeshi Meitei language. The Punjabi wikipedia has two, one in Gurmukhi script (pa wiki) and the other in Shahmukhi script (pnb wiki). Just like Chinese wikis have zh wiki, zh-classical, etc, is it possible to allow us to start a test wiki? --Haoreima (talk) 15:01, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

MF-W The Meitei script using Meitei language is usually linguistically pure or attempts not to add loanwords most of the time. It even have w:Meitei linguistic purism movement. So, I believe that the two could be considered separate. Even in Google Translate, two sections are planned to be added for Meitei language, first one is already added called "Manipuri (Meiteilon)" whose code they set as "mni-Mtei" and the remaining one is in its Beta version (soon to be publicised) and is "mni-Beng". --Haoreima (talk)

Montenegrin Wikimedia Incubator

I want to contribute to the Wikimedia Incubator for Montenegrin, but the creation of new test articles in the Incubator is disabled. I am not discussing the eligibility of a Wikipedia in Montenegrin, only the possibility of creating new test articles in the Incubator since one of the premises in the 5th request for Montenegrin is that it needs to have active contribution, but we cannot contribute when the creation of new test articles in the Incubator is disabled. Can somebody enable the creation of new test articles in the Wp/cnr/Početna stranica? @MF-Warburg purposefully ignored my question on his talk page and didn't answer it even after five days, but he responded to everybody else on the same day they posed their question. Plus, he edited this page 21 hours ago which proves he is active. I don't think he is being professional in doing his job here. He's been on Wikipedia for 17 years, maybe it's time for him to retire and somebody else to step in his place. He has a habit of ignoring people's questions which makes him totally unfit for an admin. In February of 2023, two users asked him very politely to further clarify and justify his claim that Montenegrin "is not recognized as eligible" for a test Wikimedia Incubator. He very rudely ignored both of their questions, but he has replied to all later questions on different subjects to other users, usually on the same day they asked them. He also failed to respond to @Syunsyunminmin who asked very concisely, after laying out all Wikipedian principles she is aware of, whether she is missing some information as to why the Incubator for Montenegrin is disabled. He failed to reply to user @Liuxinyu970226 on multiple occasions. This gives me reasonable doubt to conclude that he is not professional in fulfilling his task here, so I will inquire into where I can report him to have him removed from his position. I would love if somebody could give me a proper answer to my question about the Montenegrin Wikimedia Incubator and why is it disabled? It's a test wiki and we should be allowed to create test articles in order to increase the likelihood of having a real wikipedia one day. Thank you in advance. Blu145 (talk) 09:25, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for describing my response speed in such a positive way, which I feel is not deserved. - The creation of pages is blocked for all ineligible language codes. Montenegrin is currently not recognized as eligible, because the language committee has not found it to be "sufficiently unique that it could not coexist on a more general wiki. In most cases, this excludes regional dialects and different written forms of the same language." (as the m:LPP says). --MF-W {a, b} 13:32, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

The description is perfectly accurate and deserved and if I didn't write that I'm gonna report you, you would probably ignore this post as well. But I don't see where do you pull the information that Montenegrin is officially considered "not eligible". That may be your subjective opinion but the 5th Montenegrin request is still open and has lots of support. In fact, most of the opposition comes from Serbs. And you didn't even read my question, I asked about enabling test articles on the Incubator, I didn't ask why is there no Wikipedia in Montenegrin. But even if a Montenegrin wikipedia never sees the light of day, some changes will have to happen. The false, non-existent 19th century German invention called "Serbo-Croatian" that 0,2% claim as their mother tongue in all four countries today has a Wikipedia, and it's basically a Croatian Wikipedia 2.0, and all other three standards that are also "not sufficiently unique that they could not coexist on a more general wiki" have their own separate wikipedias. Montenegrin is in fact orthographically the most unique of the four because it has additional two letters. So either all of them are gonna merge into one, or we are eventually going to have our own Wikipedia. I still don't see why we shouldn't be allowed to at least write articles in the Incubator. 62.4.55.104 13:44, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

Well dear all above, I'm afraid the biggest matter that why Montenegrin can't be considered an eligible language for Incubator to test, is due to this meta assessment page: Croatian Wikipedia Disinformation Assessment-2021, especially its 3rd suggestion:

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Encouraging the affected communities to discuss the possibility of re-merging Bosnian, Serbian and Croatian language projects into the original Serbo-Croatian language projects to re-align with the practices of other pluricentric languages with unified Wikipedia projects; including but not limited to Chinese, English, German, Spanish, Tamil, Korean, and French language Wikipedias.

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@editors of that meta page: NNair (WMF), MNadzikiewicz (WMF), Xeno (WMF), Ainali, Minorax, Morneo06, DerHexer, Whym, Quisqualis and GeneralNotability: Is this suggestion also affects Montenegrin, so that Montenegrin contents should also be considered to merge into the existing Serbo-Croatian Wikipedia? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 03:53, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

I am perfectly fine with just one Wikipedia existing for all four standards of the same pluricentric BCMS language. But I consider it very wrong for three standards to have their own wikipedia, and a fourth common Serbo-Croatian wikipedia to exist, but not a Montenegrin one. There are literally no differences, zero, between Bosnian and ijekavian Serbian. In Montenegrin you at least have iotated forms with ś and ź and radically different syntax. But it's still all the same language. And it's very unprofessional of admins to have double standards for different languages. Bosnian is perfectly eligible to have it's own wikipedia, and Croatian and Serbian too, even though they are far from being sufficiently unique, but then for Montenegrin all of a sudden we have the strictest policy. I think the best solution is to have just one wikipedia in two scripts, Latin and Cyrilic, where forms of every standard will be acceptable, depending on who is writing the material. Also, this would be a huge improvement in article quality, since Serbian and Croatian editors would now have to reach a consensus on certain grounds and supply their claims with actual references, especially when it comes to writing articles on history and historical figures. The other solution would be to transform the Serbo-Croatian Wikipedia into the Montenegrin one, but again that wouldn't be fair to all the other languages that have perhaps even bigger regional differences but don't have separate wikipedias. But if no one ever merges the Serbian, Bosnian and Croatian wikipedia into one, then we need to have a Wikipedia for the Montenegrin standard as well. 62.4.55.104 05:20, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

Request to Create Test Wiki for Kawi (old Javanese) Wikipedia

I am about to create a test wiki for Kawi or Old Javanese Wikipedia, but unfortunately the ISO 639-3 for Kawi language which is "kaw" does not detected by the system. This project is tend to reuse and revive the liturgical language of Kawi on Wikipeda.

The profile of the Kawi language can be found here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Javanese

Case study for relevant project is Sanskrit Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanskrit_Wikipedia Ilham.nurwansah (talk) 07:51, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

@Ilham.nurwansah: Hello! Wikimedia's language proposal policy doesn't allow extinct/ancient languages, which is why you can't create any pages in that test wiki. Note that some ancienct language editions of Wikipedia existed before that policy came into place, and it does not work retroactively, but it is very unlikely that any new ancient language editions will be approved. Sorry. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 13:22, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

Old Saxon article

I cannot create another article in the Old Saxon test Wikipedia despite there being other articles in it. That Northern Irish Historian (talk) 15:38, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

@That Northern Irish Historian: Hello. Wikimedia's language proposal policy doesn't allow extinct languages like Old Saxon. The info page for the Old Saxon Wikipedia Incubator was erroneously marked as "open" instead of "rejected"; I have updated its status accordingly. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 13:20, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

@Jon Harald Søby But there are still existing pages prefixed as "Wp/osx/"? Shouldn't they be also deleted? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 11:11, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

Maybe move to Miraheze? That Northern Irish Historian (talk) 02:48, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

Feel free to migrate, afaik. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 03:31, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

Semiprotection from LTA

Hi - could one of the local admins please semiprotect Wp/rmn/Lačharibaskoro kontesti‎ and Wp/na/Adolf Hitler? These are being targeted by a persistent LTA. He uses a VPN so blocking the individual IPs doesn't do much good. If you could revdel some of the more deranged and abusive edit summaries that would be good too. Thank you in advance - Antandrus (talk) 16:30, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

Done Syunsyunminmin (talk) 16:35, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

Common.css for Wp/bdr and Wp/dtp

Hello! I would like to request the creation of MediaWiki:Wp/bdr/Common.css and MediaWiki:Wp/dtp/Common.css with content from MediaWiki talk:Wp/bdr/Common.css and MediaWiki talk:Wp/dtp/Common.css respectively. Thank you. Ultron90 (talk) 13:26, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

Hello. Please explain what they are needed for. Also, if I see it correctly, you have not yet contributed to Wp/dtp. Do you have any connection with the community? --MF-W {a, b} 16:12, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

Hello. I am currently trying to provide both communities with templates for infoboxes and have found that Common.css is needed for the infoboxes and other templates to function properly (correct me if I am mistaken). The current active members of both communities are a part of smaller groups within Wikimedia Community User Group Malaysia and I have agreed with them offline to help with templates. If you need further verification from members of both communities or require that I also contribute to Wp/dtp as a prerequisite, I am open to do so. Ultron90 (talk) 03:11, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation, I have moved the pages. --MF-W {a, b} 21:20, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

Blanking

Please why do continue making my publishing in the Moore Incubator difficult, anytime I create and want to publish I get notification that the page is blank because I deleted when I haven't. Please fix this issue quicklyAlhaj Darajaati (talk) 15:15, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

It seems you are indeed trying to blank pages: Special:AbuseLog/36391 --MF-W {a, b} 19:51, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

@Alhaj Darajaati: Have you been experiencing this problem lately? If so, could you let me know which browser (and browser version) you are using? Jon Harald Søby (talk) 12:30, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Common js for Wn/bn

Dear administrators, Is it possible to add this JavaScript code (or only the 'develop' part of the current version) to 'MediaWiki:Wn/bn/Common.js'? (Script by Syunsyunminmin) Thank you. Asked42 (talk) 08:16, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

This is for an easy submit function designed to submit an article for review. While I understand that Bengali Wikinews may not currently be very active as a test, this tool could be valuable in simplifying the article creation and submission process. Asked42 (talk) 08:17, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

@Asked42: I have added it, with a few minor changes. Please let me know if anything is not working as it should. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 12:45, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

It is working fine. Just a request, would it be possible to change the text 'প্রতিস্থাপন' to 'নিরীক্ষণের জন্য জমা দিন'? Asked42 (talk) 14:18, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Just something I noticed: on mobile, the button works as a link to edit the page, while on the desktop version, everything is fine (without installing script). Asked42 (talk) 16:50, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Could someone kindly take a moment to review the matter and requests? Thank you. Asked42 (talk) 16:40, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

Resignation

Good day all, I have resigned as a local administrator earlier in the day as I'm inactive and don't see any strong reasons for me to keep the local rights. I will continue to serve the community in the capacity of a global sysop, and as a local translation admin, and hope to see you guys soon :) --Minorax^«¦talk¦» 12:20, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

@Minorax: Thanks for your help and service so far! :-) Jon Harald Søby (talk) 13:03, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Wp/kri/Josef Stalin

Please protect this page because of frequent vandalism by LTA. --Ameisenigel (talk) 09:31, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Semiprotected for one year. -- MF-W {a, b} 08:10, 29 September 2023 (UTC)