Incubator:Requests for deletions

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Wp/jat, Wt/jat, Wb/jat, Wn/jat, Wq/jat and Wy/jat

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Per w:en:Special:Diff/1121838578, it's suspected (at least by @Uanfala) that pages in this test project aren't written in Inku (aka Jakati, which iso639-3:jat points to), probably a linguist in the affected region should join here to discuss whether their suspect is true. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 04:38, 17 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

Example text in Inku language is same as Jatki language. The code Jat was initially fir Jatki languge. In the article of Inku it is clearly written that the language belong to Punjab pronvice of Pakistan.
This wikipedia is written in Jatki language. So, this wikipedia should not be deleted. Otherwise a large no of written material may be destroyed. So it should be continued. Sraiki (talk) 05:24, 17 November 2022 (UTC)Reply
First, there used to be serious confusion about which exact language was denoted by the ISO code "jat". See the commentary in the Glottolog entry [1]. This appears to have largely been resolved now, with both Glottolog and Ethnologue using that code for Inku, the language of a few small itinerant groups of Afghanistan that was probably never written and that may well be extinct by now. The name "Jakati" [sic], surprisingly still visible in the ISO 639-3 code tables [2], is almost certainly erroneous. The similar name "Jatki" appears never to have been used for Inku, but was historically common for a number of related languages of Pakistani Punjab (see en:Jatki language), most notably for what is nowadays known as Saraiki, a language with millions of speakers, a solid written tradition, and a Wikipedia of its own. Now, I don't speak any of those languages, so I can't know for sure. My hunch is that those incubator articles about places in Punjab that appear to use what looks to me like Saraiki orthography, are unlikely to be written in a possibly extinct language of Afghanistan. User:Sraiki, maybe you can help us here: what exact language have you written those articles in? where is it spoken? by how many people? Uanfala (talk) 12:07, 17 November 2022 (UTC)Reply
These articles are written the language, which is known Jatki. It is mainly spoken in Bar region . It is called Jatki in the region. It is spoken by more than 50% population of that region. The population of Jatki is more than 10 M. In all old documents it is Jatki.This language is entirely different from Saraiki and Punjabi. See this for more details, https://github.com/glottolog/glottolog/issues/895 .This language is also called en:Shahpuri dialect and en:Jhangvi dialect. This Jatki was also called en:Lahnda in old litrature whose Iso code is lah. As there is no current ISO code for Jhangvi and Shahpuri, I used Iso code of Jatki, because jat is code for Jatki and Jatki is mainly used for these dialects. See also https://www.routledge.com/Dictionary-of-the-Jatki-or-Western-Panjabi-Language/Jukes/p/book/9780367248680 This book is about Jatki language. Sraiki (talk) 12:25, 17 November 2022 (UTC)Reply
@Sraiki, Engr.ismailbhutta "I used Iso code of Jatki"? The problem is that iso639-3:jat page says Jakati, not Jatki, I'd say that this is an issue that should be resolved, or else it would be ultra-unfair for Inku/Jakati speakers (if any), as there are two cases the existing Wikipedias were occupied (good to say so?) codes for other unrelated languages (nrmwiki, says Norman Wikipedia but code is for Narom, and Wikipedia 10, which code is for Tama), and at least I really don't want it to be happened 3rd times and more. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 04:12, 24 November 2022 (UTC)Reply
I would support the merger of this incubator with existing pnb Wikipedia if possible. The Jatki dialect is widely understood by speakers of other dialects—for example, it is the dialect of Toba Tek Singh District where my family is from. My family are Doabi speakers (an eastern dialect) but many of the words we use overlap with Jatki due to two centuries having passed since my family left eastern Punjab. The Shahmukhi Punjabi Wikipedia already has very few active contributors, and see this energy focused there instead would be most welcome. Any differences that make a given dialect distinctive could also be applied to any other, making it less clear what is left as non-dialectal Punjabi. What is called the “standard” dialect (Majhi) is much more loose of a definition than that of other languages—the language, especially as it is used in Pakistan, has never had a single register which can truly be considered the “main” one due to its lack of official status and use in primarily colloquial contexts. In John Beames's comparative grammar of the northern Indic languages, he reckoned that Punjabi likely has the most dialect variation within the language out of all the major ones for lack of a standard written register. I would say that in line with that, it is perfectly fine for pnb Wikipedia to include articles written in a variety of dialects, and in fact should be expected if the project is meant to represent Punjabi as a whole as it is used in Pakistan. عُثمان (talk) 14:42, 12 February 2023 (UTC)Reply

(talk) Jatki is well known language in Pakistan which is spoken in 11 districts (Jhang, Chiniot, Toba Tek Singh, Sargodha, Khushab, Sahiwal, Pakpattan, Okara, Bahawalnagar, Vehari and Khanewal districts) of bar region of Punjab province over the area of 49,121 km². The population of Jatki language speaking areas is 26,374,221 according to census 2017 which is more than 50% jatki speaking and others are settlers from India on partition and other parts of Pakistan but they are not locals. The main,local and ancient language of bar region is jatki which has very rich literature and culture. My forefathers migrated from bar region to Saraiki region but the term "inko" is new for me and the people of bar region because their language is Jatki. So I endorse the comments of Mr Sraiki and I request to carry on the Wikipedia project for jatki language to save its literature and culture, regards. Ismail Bhutta 14:02, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

OK, I see. So Jatki, the language variety that both Sraiki and Ismail Bhutta refer to above, is one that doesn't have a dedicated ISO code. It is intermediate between pnb ("Western Punjabi" as used by the SIL) and skr (Saraiki). It is one of the many varieties that fall under the scope of the macrolanguage lah (Lahnda), but I don't think the code [lah] can be re-appropriated specifically for this variety. The code [jat] can't be used either, as that presently refers to the Inku language of Afghanistan (there has been confusion around that code before, but never to my knowledge has it been used for a language of Pakistan). The only way forward that I can see is to come up with a new Wikimedia-specific language code and then move the test wikipedia accordingly. I don't know how exactly Incubator works, so someone more knowledgeable could take up this task? Uanfala (talk) 19:45, 17 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

In such cases, the new codes should be a part of SIL's code change requests, probably ask @Amire80: on the details? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 05:50, 18 November 2022 (UTC)Reply
@Liuxinyu970226@Uanfala@عُثمان Wt/jat, Wb/jat, Wn/jat, Wq/jat and Wy/jat be deleted per request of creator. Wp/jat may be discussed. Sraiki (talk) 07:14, 2 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

Wp/sro

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Like the Wp/arq above, there are some evidences make this test project unsuccessful too. Campidanese is only considered as a dialect of Sardinian, and the Sardinian Wikipedia already has lots of articles written in this dialect. One scwiki administrator @L2212 also pointed at this talk page, that the real Campidanese speakers always directly contribute scwiki, where the user in that question, Fausta Samaritani, has identified to be another maker of scowiki-like problems, where that user doesn't really speak or write Sardinian, or any dialects of it, and that user's aim looks like to "transform scwiki to be a constellation (sic?)", which doesn't really work-able in any circumstances. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 07:24, 10 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

I also support the deletion of that test wiki. As @Liuxinyu970226 has already written, it's a personal project by a non-speaker (using two names, Fausta Samaritani and Sirmio Cabinigre) that decided to work on it by creating hundreds of copy-pasted and almost empty articles (like the ones regarding the days of the month, the years or the centuries) with empty sections that someone else would have to fill. The Wp/sro project was already clearly not successful, having existed for years without a single article, and the sudden push for it's "development" and even its publication as a new language version comes from Fausta Samaritani's desire to split Sardinian in a multitude of wikis, one for every dialect (there are 200+ of them, btw, since every town has its own little differences, so you can imagine how feasible such an idea would be), to create, as Liuxinyu970226 mentioned, a "constellation of wikis" (sic) about it. Considering the fact that Sardinian is a single language with mutual intelligibility between the dialects, that we already have few active users as it is, and that the users that write using the Campidanese orthography (often alongside others, like the LSC one) use sc.wiki (where we also have rules and template to work with multiple orthographies and versions of an article) and have rejected time and time again this project (as you can see in the discussions here, here and here, where you can also find more informations about Sardinia's linguistic situation) the fact that she is still insisting is honestly absurd. L2212 (talk) 19:59, 15 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
I see the Sardinian wiki uses similar tactics like Limburgish, which also has a high dialectual variation (see Agiudu:Grafias de Wikipedia), so I personally agree that there is no need for separate wikis. However, the requests are marked as eligible by the language subcom, so we have to allow them here. So really, this needs to be addressed at meta:Language committee first. Here we facilitate, we don't judge eligibility, that's up to the Langcom. --OWTB (talk) 16:03, 16 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Ooswesthoesbes There are some languages where their "Wikipedia requests" are eligible, but Incubator tests deleted: Fala (fax), Orang Seletar (ors), Ter Sami (sjt) and Votic (vot), with the third one been barred for re-creation. To the best of my knowledge, we should re-debate eligibility of these 5 (yep, include sro one) requests, they are controversial requests by even non-L2 speakers. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 01:38, 17 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
Those test projects were deleted because the contents was either gibberish or in another language than the code, not on eligibility reasons. As I indicated before, we facilitate, we don't judge. --OWTB (talk) 07:19, 17 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Ooswesthoesbes Yes, Wp/sro is also containing gibberish and absurd contents provided by speakers of another language, as L2212 said above, "we don't judge" don't mean either, that we can't oppose, just see what I commented at those controversial "eligible" requests: 1, 2, 3 and 4 Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 01:51, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
I am in agreement with the deletion, as presented by @L2212 Riad Salih (talk) 16:43, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
Why isn't the wiki transferred to Incubator Plus 2.0 instead or maybe, move the articles to the Wikipedia in Sardinian with a note explaining that they are written in Campidanese? Jon Gua (talk) 11:31, 3 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Jon Gua If you can explain that why those contents are not "gibberish and absurd" as explained and endorsed above, feel free. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 01:34, 23 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
The content should be moved to Sardinian Wikipedia or Miraheze. I don't see anything "gibberish and absurd" in the content. Yes, the articles are small, but that's another problem. --Danvintius Bookix (talk) 10:01, 18 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Danvintius Bookix See L2212's comments above, unless if you're really debating his comments, I don't see why Fausta's contributions aren't gibberish and absurd. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 12:41, 18 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
Example. I see, it is a simple small article about year, nothing absurd. They are written, as far as I can judge, in Sardinian, and most likely in Campidanese orthography, because besides Fausta, there was also a user who actually knew Sardinian who edited it. I do not support a separate Campidanese Wikipedia, but we must be objective. --Danvintius Bookix (talk) 13:15, 18 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
@L2212 What's your idea on Danvintius Bookix's idea to merge this test project into sc.wikipedia? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 15:18, 19 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
If there are any useful articles (that were not copied from sc.wiki) ok, we can create the pages or the orthographic subpages to import them, but I have my doubts that that's the case. The example used by @Danvintius Bookix is not any different from an edit made by a bot, would any other wiki import those? We are talking about hundreds of articles here.
At the very least, all the empty sections should be deleted, and the text corrected (it's "annu de su de 20 sèculus", not "annu de su 20 sèculus", that's what happens when someone that doesn't speak a language copies and pastes the same unverified text only replacing numbers and the names of the months) but in articles like this one that would leave almost nothing. Is it even worth the effort? L2212 (talk) 23:57, 4 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

Wp/na

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Raised by m:Talk:Language committee#Requests for closures, @Yupik pointed out that Even the longer pages were created by someone who is not a (native) speaker of the language and is tied to the whole Kamassian debacle, probably this imported project meets same situation scowiki has. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 00:11, 26 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

I was notified about this on my talk page. I'm not a native speaker. I've not made any substantial edits, and AFAICT the 60 edits I did make were only to add images, links and categories, and I don't have an opinion on whether the project should be closed. Kwamikagami (talk) 02:24, 26 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Looks like some of my edits from en: were imported. The current template doesn't work b/c it's part of the Lua everything debacle. The version I wrote doesn't work b/c parts of it were deleted which is tie to the "delete everything we don't need" debacle. Otherwise I wish this wiki the very best of luck. Rich Farmbrough (talk)

  Comment Why can't we leave it in Incubator until community to create Wikipedia would form? I know that Nauruan language has not much speakers, but I don't think this is the reason delete the project even from Incubator. Пан Хаунд 2 (talk) 11:45, 20 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Support to leave it as it is. Таёжный лес (talk) 08:35, 26 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
  Comment It seems that many pages are indeed not grammatically correct. Таёжный лес (talk) 12:05, 28 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
We can delete it and leave only pages with pure Nauruan text. Пан Хаунд 2 (talk) 11:05, 28 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

Wp/kpy

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Similar to Wp/nio. Zero actual content, zero speakers, but several main pages here since 2022. Таёжный лес (talk) 16:06, 11 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Neutral, there are 2,630 native speakers, do we have ideas whether one of em can come to contribute? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 23:29, 30 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Wp/dlg

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Similar to /nio and /kpy. Three one-word articles, one article with unformatted alphabet and translations to Russian and Sakha and zero speakers here since 2010. Таёжный лес (talk) 18:14, 11 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Neutral, there are 4,840 native speakers, same situation as kpy one. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 23:32, 30 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Wp/non

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As per the 2nd rejected RFL, the Old Norse is an extinct proto language, and having a test project violates LPP. Even though there are still Old adults can be considered Old Norse ethnic, they are generally migrated to speak Saami or standard Norwegian (maybe Bokmal or Nynorsk, I don't have interests), so I even don't know why this project was started. Maybe migrate to Incubator Plus before deleted? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 00:35, 17 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Support I support the deletion of this project and, if possible, its migration elsewhere as per the request. I have observed that the project has never been active since its creation. -- ꠢꠣꠍꠘ ꠞꠣꠎꠣ (talk) 07:53, 5 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

Wp/crg

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Almost all the pages are one-word stubs. The only page with significant text is not an encyclopedic article, but the Lord's prayer, and its text is also available in the English Wikipedia article about the language. The Meta request for the Wikipedia language was created by a banned user, and since it was obviously not serious, I speedily-deleted it. The language is probably eligible, but it should be done by serious people who actually know the language. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 16:24, 22 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Neutral, per Ethnologue, while 75 in United States, decreasing, L2 users: 0. It also mentioned 1,910 in Canada, L1 users: 980. But the 8b (Nearly extinct) status would still be a lock for finding serious contributors. Maybe contacting WMCA for suggestions? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 23:36, 30 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
Some people to reach out to: [3], [4]. Amqui (talk) 02:08, 6 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
  Support deletion per nominator. Таёжный лес (talk) 08:56, 19 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

Wp/ils, Wp/tss, Wp/ycr

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Most of the content in these Incubators was created by User:Sdf.

Wp/ils and Wp/tss only have main pages, which appear to be written in SignWriting, but that's it.

Wp/ycr has several one-word pages. They can perhaps be moved to a Wiktionary Incubator, but I'm not even sure about that.

I tried pinging User:Sdf on Meta about this and got no reply.

In this state, it's probably better to start those languages from scratch if anyone serious wants to do it. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 19:11, 22 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Delete ils, No known L1 users according to a 2015 survey, so no hope for any seriously contributors. Neutral for tss and ycr, tss has 24,000 speakers and ycr 3,200, both belong to Taiwan, which looks like the home of Sdf. Tend to ask WMTW staffs @Supaplex, Ffaarr, Imacat, Alexsh, Koala0090, JM99, Reke, Natsu621 and 林非帶你飛 for inputs. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 23:32, 30 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
  Deleted - Wp/ils, Wp/tss. NinjaStrikers «» 15:03, 9 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
Neutral If User:Sdf is local to the languages, as suggested in the discussion, Wp/ycr may serve as valuable language documentation. In this case, the project should be given a reasonable amount of time to grow, provided there are active local users willing to contribute. Additionally, the short pages with valid content could be moved to the Wiktionary project (Wt/ycr) after notifying the community. --ꠢꠣꠍꠘ ꠞꠣꠎꠣ (talk) 07:21, 5 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

Wp/kls

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There is nothing there except a "main page" that is written in English and Urdu and not in Kalasha. The language is probably eligible, but should be started from scratch. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 05:08, 25 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Neutral, there are 5,000 native speakers per Ethnologue, are there any possible to find some Pakistani contributors to maintain it? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 23:46, 30 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Wp/lew

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All the pages are very short and repetitive, and according to @Janwo, they aren't quite written in the claimed language. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 16:06, 25 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

What i said was that in a few pages, I found sentences partly written in Bahasa Indonesia. --Janwo (talk) 06:04, 27 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
Neutral, 215,000 speakers, maybe contacting WMID for ideas? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 23:48, 30 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Wp/mbb

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Only one very short page. The user who created it is no longer active. It's better to start from scratch. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 17:03, 29 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Neutral, 15,000 speakers, not sure whether m:Wiki Society of the Philippines has idea on finding real L1 speakers to contribute. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 23:57, 30 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Wp/uum

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Only a main page with some text in Ukrainian and English, written by someone who doesn't claim to know the language. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 01:52, 30 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

I wanted to create a main page to make the base of future wiki. I have written the guide how to start the Wikipedia in Ukrainian (official language in country where most of Urums live) and English (one of the most spoken languages in the world).
I think that that we should not delete the Wikipedia because Urum language has enough speakers to create a community for working on any wikiproject.
Пан Хаунд 2 (talk) 12:34, 30 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
When they actually come, it can be easily recreated. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 15:15, 30 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
I don't know. You are free to do what you think will be better, I will not be arguing. Пан Хаунд 2 (talk) 17:55, 30 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
  Oppose I changed my position. I don't think there is a problem to keep 2 pages of the project. I know that the pages aren't written in native language, but it was created to make further development of the Wikipedia possible.
Also, there are few Wikipedias in languages with a few speakers, such as Sakizaya (590 speakers) or Inari Sami (450) that were developed in Incubator.
But you can do what you want.
Пан Хаунд 2 (talk) 15:10, 5 January 2025 (UTC)Reply
Sakizaya (590 speakers) or Inari Sami (450) were developed by people who actually know the language with help from people who don't know the language. In this case, there is no one who knows the language. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 16:42, 5 January 2025 (UTC)Reply
But, for example, Inari Wikipedia also wasn't always active and not always had enough contributors when it was in Incubator. It was started in 2011, but created only in 2020. But it wasn't deleted because of lack of speakers of contributors and now develops as separate project. Пан Хаунд 2 (talk) 17:13, 5 January 2025 (UTC)Reply
I strongly doubt that Inari Sami became successful because an inactive Incubator had existed. And it would probably become just as successful if the inactive Incubator was deleted.
The reason that inactive Incubator that have no real content in the actual language should be deleted is that it's hard enough to manage so many languages in one place, and it's even harder when some of them just clog the lists of languages without having any real content. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 19:18, 5 January 2025 (UTC)Reply
If we look at Wp/ctg/Main Page created on 2010 by a non-native user in English (International) language. Later on 2018 another user translated in Bengali (local national) language. Than we can see in 2021 a user is trying to translate 50% Bengali and 50% Chittagonian and than in 2022 a user started to translate in fully Chittagonian. The time difference is 12 years! Are we consistent with that in Wp/uum, which started recently? ꠢꠣꠍꠘ ꠞꠣꠎꠣ (talk) 20:48, 5 January 2025 (UTC)Reply
@ꠢꠣꠍꠘ ꠞꠣꠎꠣ Per Ethnologue, Chittagonian has 13,000,000 speakers according to SIL's survey in 2006 and in 3 (Wider communication), by following their other survey datas, ctg can be treated enough as a separate language from standard Bengali, but then, Urum has only 1,000 speakers in Ukraine by a 2023 survey, and the status is 7 (Shifting), language use field says Adults only, few child speakers (Salminen 2007). Shifting to Ukrainian [ukr]., the creator also claimed "Test wikis of languages of Turkey" on Wp/uum itself below, but neither this nor Turkey info page show relations each other, means that such claim is by itself suspicious. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 10:19, 8 January 2025 (UTC)Reply
  Support The Urum test project can be easily re-created. Таёжный лес (talk) 17:41, 30 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
Neutral, 1,000 in Ukraine, and No known L1 speakers in Georgia. Due to de facto War zone situation, I have less hope for serious contributors. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 23:58, 30 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
  Oppose, The current info page does not have a ‘create new page’ option. Therefore, I am not convinced that it can be easily recreated by a non-English speaker, an inexperienced user, or a non-technical individual. --ꠢꠣꠍꠘ ꠞꠣꠎꠣ (talk) 07:35, 5 January 2025 (UTC)Reply
@ꠢꠣꠍꠘ ꠞꠣꠎꠣ But if there are really benefical to wish this to be re-created? As there are low number of speakers, I don't think if there's strong hope for it. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 08:26, 5 January 2025 (UTC)Reply
Which info page? If this is useful, then perhaps such a button can be created for all languages and not just specifically for this one. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 16:43, 5 January 2025 (UTC)Reply
For example, let’s compare different types of info pages. Wp/ils is a deleted project (please check the placeholder template; it doesn’t have the ‘Create page’ option, so it’s not as easy to create as claimed). Now, compare this with Wt/ctg, a project with ‘tocreate’ status, which does have that option.-- ꠢꠣꠍꠘ ꠞꠣꠎꠣ (talk) 20:16, 5 January 2025 (UTC)Reply
Such "tocreate" info pages look like what OWTB supports for having, but also, there are some users, like me, that oppose them for existing. Creating new pages via tocreate look like too easy to be safety, as it will not require disclosure of language speech at Babel (e.g. ctg-N, uk-2...), where the non-created info pages require it by system, this will lead a possible that the project is initialized by non-speakers with just random English (or sometimes French, German...) texts, maybe a broad discussion about this should happen at I:CP. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 00:01, 6 January 2025 (UTC)Reply
It does have a "Create" button at the top of the page, just like all pages that don't exist. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 14:48, 8 January 2025 (UTC)Reply
  Support Absolutely useless project. No pages in Urum whatsoever, no known speakers and zero hope for them bevause of SVO. We should absolutely not waste the server space on such things. 5.183.29.95 10:52, 29 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

Wp/eve, Wt/eve, Wb/eve

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  1. For 12 years of existence Even Wikipedia, the project has not appeared even a single word in Even (:D). Only two articles were created - Wp/eve/Википедия, originally written in Latin Crimean Tatar, and Wp/eve/Монгол, written in Evenki. The main page is written entirely in Russian.
  2. The Even Wiktionary is also not written in Even — all 88 articles either contain single Even word, or a word with a definition in Russian. The main page was initially written in Russian with a touch of Abkhazian.
  3. The Even Wikibooks doesn't contain and hasn't contained a single article ever. The main page is written entirely in Russian, before that-entirely in English with Ukrainian interspersed, to which the category for Urum was also added.

I don't think it makes any sense to kept projects that have or has text in Russian, English, Ukrainian, Mongolian, Crimean Tatar, Abkhazian, Evenki, and Urum, but not in Even. Таёжный лес (talk) 17:59, 30 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Definitely delete Wp and Wb.
I'm less sure about Wt. If these are actually Even words with translations into Russian, there is some value in that.
To alleviate any doubt, if people who know Even want to create Wikipedia or Wikibooks, they are welcome to recreate it. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 20:47, 30 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Amire80 & Таёжный лес: Well, maybe these projects are more or less likely affected due to under same Tungusic umbrella and, if I remember correctly, many of them are initialized by MiiCii (notified at talk page, so no need to ping): Wp/mnc (has a RFL verified as eligible), Wt/mnc (has a RFL verified as eligible), Wb/mnc, Wn/mnc (just a placeholder), Wq/mnc, Wy/mnc (just a placeholder), Wp/sjo (has a RFL), Wp/gld, Wt/gld, Wb/gld (just a placeholder), Wp/oaa, Wt/oaa, Wb/oaa (just a placeholder), Wp/ulc, Wt/ulc, Wb/ulc (just a placeholder), Wp/evn (has a rejected RFL), Wt/evn, Wb/evn (just a placeholder), Wp/neg, Wt/neg, Wb/neg (just a placeholder), Wp/orh, Wt/orh, Wb/orh (just a placeholder), Wp/oac, Wt/oac, Wb/oac (just a placeholder), Wp/ude, Wt/ude and Wb/ude (just a placeholder). If the quality of these projects are also eve-like, then I would love to extend this deletion requests to cover em. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 23:12, 30 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
For record, per Ethnologue: Even - 5,300 in Russia, 7 (Shifting). Evenki - 11,000 in China, 5,830 in Russia (6b (Threatened) in both), No known L1 speakers in Mongolia. Nanai - 3,180 in Russia, 8a (Moribund), 40 in China, 8b (Nearly extinct). Manchu - 20 in China, 8b (Nearly extinct). Negidal - 22 in Russia, 8a (Moribund). Orok - 89 in Russia, 8a (Moribund), 3 in Japan, 8b (Nearly extinct). Oroch - 43 in Russia, 8b (Nearly extinct). Oroqen - 1,200 in China, 8a (Moribund). Xibe - 30,000 in China, 6b (Threatened). Udihe - 190 in Russia, 8a (Moribund). Ulch - 510 in Russia, 8a (Moribund). --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 00:16, 31 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
The number of speakers is not very relevant here. Manchu has very few speakers, but very active editors. If editors come, a new Incubator can easily be created. The discussion here is not about the languages, but about the content in the Incubator. There is pretty much nothing in the current content, so it's better to delete it. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 00:36, 31 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Amire80 Wp/grc has even no speakers, but also "very active editors", actually, my worry about Manchu is based on a 2022 discussion where several "users" are not real single contributors, but just someone who created one account by one hand, and another account by another hand, 3rd account by one foot, and 4th account by another foot... all in one - socks. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 01:48, 31 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
I don't think this may be appliable to other projects. MiCii is related to only one of them, just to that with highest quality. Таёжный лес (talk) 06:56, 31 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
In addition, many of them have valuable content created by this languages speakers. Таёжный лес (talk) 06:59, 31 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
All of the Wt/eve pages are available on existing Wiktionary versions. Таёжный лес (talk) 07:00, 31 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Liuxinyu970226 Agree to delete any projects just a placeholder mentioned above.
It's reasonable not to keep them.
Recreating them after the speakers who are able to edit the projects of these languages have joined. MiiCii 02:06, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
Comment @Таёжный лес: From a recent view, Miguelisoalsjsosns initialized Wq/eve, is that user a potential Even speaker? Or did that user start a wrong project? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 15:18, 30 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
Have no idea. I doubt very much that he knows the Even language. Таёжный лес (talk) 16:36, 1 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

Wp/tvx

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Even though a code was granted in 2019, it's still an extinct language, so having a test project violates LPP, and hence its RFL rejected recently. As there are good contents, migrating to 3rd party website such as Incubator Plus would be fair than just delete. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 23:24, 4 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

There's a lot of content there. I don't know whether it's good Taivoan, but I am assuming good faith.
It probably shouldn't be speedily and completely deleted, but rather moved to Incubator Plus. I'm not directly experienced with this myself, however, so I'm not sure what's the process for doing that. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 00:16, 5 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
Actually I'm also considering to do samething for Wp/grc, but for that, I will need a stackholder to preserve those contents wishing to be migrated. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 04:21, 5 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
As a teacher of the Taivoan language and the main contributor to Wp/tvx, I can confidently say that labeling the language as "extinct" is not accurate at all. The Taivoan language is a dormant language, not an extinct one, as the indigenous people have been working to revive it based on the rich vocabulary and sentences left by the Dutch people in the 17th century. These documents include the Gospel of Matthew (23,000–25,000 words), the Catechism (nearly 10,000 words), and the Gospel of John (more than 15,000 words), which was only recently discovered in 2019.
Now we have a simple and yet encouraging dictionary in Taivoan, published in 2023, along with three versions of textbooks published by three Taivoan communities in two dialects — one in 2022 and the other two in 2024. We have also recently completed three sessions of language courses, covering from daily vocabulary to religious lyrics, with students ranging in age from 10 to 66 years old. This initiative enables people to teach their children how to read the language or even integrate it into the tourism industry they have been developing in the past decade.
As we prepare to file a new request to create a Taivoan Wikipedia, your support in preserving the works of Wp/tvx is crucial. Thank you for your understanding and support. Bellenion (talk) 10:57, 8 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
I would however think that Wikipedia isn't the only way for this, there could also have other wiki host platforms e.g. wiki.gg. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 15:30, 8 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for the response, @Bellenion.
I'm a member of the Language committee, but I'm not speaking on behalf of the whole committee in this comment, and this is only my own opinion.
Given what Bellenion writes, I now think even more strongly that we should assume good faith and that this Incubator shouldn't be deleted at all.
I marked the first request for this language on Meta as "rejected" mainly because the language is classified as "extinct" by ISO 639 3, and the proposal policy allows only Wikisource projects in extinct languages. That request had some other problems, which are quite relevant to this discussion. It was created by a user who didn't do almost anything else on Wikimedia projects and who probably doesn't know the language. The request also included nonsense and unrealistic claims about the language.
So that request has practically nothing to do with the actual content of the Incubator and with the people who have written there. In fact, perhaps it would be even better if I deleted it completely instead of just rejecting it. (I have gone over a lot of requests for new languages in the last few weeks, and I noticed that this strange and undesirable phenomenon is surprisingly common. I hope that I'll find the time to prevent it more strictly going forward.)
It is okay if the content stays, and if Bellenion and other people who actually know something about this language create a new request for it on Meta and explain the language's status the way they see it. It does happen that ISO 639 3 classifies languages incorrectly, and that information can be updated, especially when everything is done by serious people with good intentions and relevant knowledge. This is not a commitment to mark the language as eligible, but a well-written request that explains how the language conforms to the Language proposal policy may be approved.
I'd also like to add that if Bellenion is interested in it, digitizing the already-published content in this language, like the Gospels he mentioned, is definitely desirable. It already can be done on the Multilingual Wikisource - https://wikisource.org. If there is enough material, it can even be converted to a separate Wikisource domain eventually. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 16:21, 8 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Amire80 What I request isn't "deleted at all", but migrate to another better platform, due to Wikipedia's de facto, and ad hoc situation that exclude newcommers of extinct languages as well as possible.
"It is okay if the content stays" by reviewing scowiki issue, that's really a questionable suggestion, if there are no L1 speakers, then who can warrant that these are indeed in Taivoan instead of another new, unrelated Pidgin or Creole and/or Conlang? "It does happen that ISO 639 3 classifies languages incorrectly" maybe, but Ethnologue said more briefly factual situation that No known L1 speakers. The last known speaker died near the end of the 1800s. so far, @Bellenion: I'd love to suggest not to create a new request for it on Meta too soon, but try to do what Thao did: 2021-028 request, to change type to living, adopted.
So yes, digitizing the already-published content in this language as well as possible, such languages shall focus on the Wikisource inclusion instead of Wikipedia, or otherwise why we need Wikisource? Wikipedia has 5 pillars that every language has to follow without any reservation, or otherwise got closed: Wikipedia is an encyclopedia (where extinct languages can't be encyclopedia by themselves), Wikipedia is written from a neutral point of view (where, by practices, extinct languages can only provide their own POVs instead of neutral), Wikipedia is free content that anyone can use, edit, and distribute (where extinct languages can't be used by non interests, and can only distribute in a very limited aforementioned region), Wikipedia's editors should treat each other with respect and civility (where extinct languages can only treat other languages' speakers "unfair", "discriminate", etc. without any frontage prejudices), Wikipedia has no firm rules (where extinct languages set too much of unnecessary firm rules). But do Wikisource wikis have them? No.
For many years, there are several ad hoc claims that a language "must first open their Wikipedia first", this can also be vetoed simply by Shawiya example: their Wiktionary has created, but Wikipedia rejected. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 00:26, 9 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Liuxinyu970226, in this reply, you make many false claims, such as this one: "Wikipedia has 5 pillars that every language has to follow without any reservation".
Please stop doing this. I already asked you: before you cite something that you think is a rule, check whether it is actually a rule. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 01:46, 9 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Amire80 I didn't say 5 pillars are rules, instead, I acknowledge with original texts: The fundamental principles of Wikipedia may be summarized in five "pillars". Fundamental principles aren't "rules", but also have to follow. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 01:59, 9 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
If you are referring to the page m:Founding principles, it's not so consistent with what you write, and it's not very relevant to this discussion anyway. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 02:33, 9 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Wp/dar

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Dear, in the Dargin version of the incubator, I found a large number of articles not in the literary dialect, I put templates where the language is incorrect so that the articles are deleted, please delete these articles as soon as you can, those who have administrator rights Saad Dargan (talk) 11:35, 9 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Maybe, it written in other dialect? All dargin languages have one ISO code. --Danvintius Bookix (talk) 11:57, 9 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
I speak two dialects, all articles are written mainly in two dialects, those in which I speak, half of the text is everywhere in Russian with a huge number of errors in Dargin, articles without errors and correctly written in one of the dialects I leave Saad Dargan (talk) 11:59, 9 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
So, if I understand correctly, the articles are written in bad Dargin mixed with Russian (presumedly, created by non-native speakers). How feasible is it to correct the language? If that's possible, that should be the first way to go. --OWTB (talk) 09:23, 10 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
yes, you got it right. I correct what can be corrected, but my plans are to clear the incubator of articles that do not correspond to the Dargin language and start writing correct articles myself. besides, in addition to the language in the article, the title is incorrectly indicated for 60% of the articles 2A02:8108:286:D000:985:AB9D:2ED6:4815 09:36, 10 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Saad Dargan, вы хотите удалить все нынешние страницы в Инкубаторе на даргинском языке, или только те, которые вы пометили? Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 05:03, 11 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
только те, что я пометил, так как там имеются добротные статьи. Saad Dargan (talk) 09:25, 11 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
Хорошо. Такие вещи не надо просить на этой странице. Эта страница для запроса удаления всех страниц на определённом языке.
А те, что вы пометили настолько плохие, что их нельзя просто исправить? Обязательно удалить? Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 12:10, 11 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
понял, да, они неполные а те что написаны 10 лет назад написаны на извращенном языке который не имеет ничего общего ни с одним диалектом. буду писать заново добротные статьи 2A00:20:7010:7B15:69C8:D46C:C1F9:9748 12:47, 11 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Wp/tin

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Lack of any Tindi content since creation in 2009. Have only two created in 2011 one-word pages Wp/tin/Хъварщи and Wp/tin/Идараб мицци, where first of them in Avar, not in Tindi. Таёжный лес (talk) 10:26, 16 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Neutral [5] told me: 4,730 speakers according to a 2020 census, but it's an Unwritten [Qaax] language, maybe more investigations are needed before any actions here. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 23:49, 17 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Wp/bph

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Same story as Wp/tin above: three one-word pages, a copied template in Russian and a main page entirely in Russian as well. Not a single sentence in Botlikh, and quite obviously never touched by anyone with knowledge of the language.   IJzeren Jan (besěda) 18:15, 17 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Neutral 5,240 speakers, also Unwritten [Qaax] language, as such, my comment to tin above also applies here. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 23:50, 17 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
It's not about numbers of speakers. A small but dedicated community can be enough to create a thriving project (like this one, which 50 speakers), but sometimes a project is closed for the simple reason that nobody wants or needs it, even if the language itself has a million speakers or more. Here we аre dealing with a test wiki created by an anonymous user who clearly doesn't know the language, but simply copy-'n-pasted a main page in Russian from some other test wiki, as well as three one-word pages with words that were probably found here, here and here, none of which have ever been edited by anyone else. According to policy, all four of them qualify for deletion. Since there's nothing worth preserving here, wouldn't you agree that it would be better to start from scratch once someone shows up who actually speaks the language?   IJzeren Jan (besěda) 22:43, 19 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
Full   Support of deletion per nominator. Таёжный лес (talk) 05:13, 20 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
  Support I support the deletion as explained above. If this project contains no meaningful content and has never been active since its creation, retaining it does not appear to serve any useful purpose. --ꠢꠣꠍꠘ ꠞꠣꠎꠣ (talk) 05:42, 5 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

Wt/rml

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All pages are completely written in Russian, not in Baltic Romani. Таёжный лес (talk) 15:48, 3 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

Судя по всему, автор, @Samuel.A.Kim:, не совсем верно понял смысл Викисловаря. Думаю, это нужно перенести в русский Викисловарь. I think, it should be moved to Russian Wiktionary. --Danvintius Bookix (talk) 09:52, 25 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
Автор понял суть словаря, но учитывая, что автор создавал материалы в инкубаторе, то в первую очередь приоритетом было наполнение словаря, а не перевод интерфейса. Кроме того, учитывая, что данный диалект использует русский язык в качестве основы, то при работе в инкубаторе было удобнее пользоваться интерфейсом, который был предложен, т.е. русский. Samuel.A.Kim (talk) 19:18, 12 January 2025 (UTC)Reply
Neutral Per Ethnologue, 7,280 speakers in Poland, 12,000 in Belarus, 460 in Estonia, 1,970 in Lithuania, 5,640 in Latvia, and probably there are speakers in Russia, and all are in 5* (Developing) status. Looks like both Cyrillic and Latin being used for these speakers, just depend on where they're living, better to give some months to see if such purely-russian contents can be translated or not. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 01:38, 16 January 2025 (UTC)Reply
Anyway @Таёжный лес: The Danvintius Bookix above recently contributed some contents at Wq/rml, is that project also meeting same issue? Or that project is in correct language? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 23:46, 17 January 2025 (UTC)Reply
In the correct language. Таёжный лес (talk) 06:54, 18 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

Wp/lah/Main Page

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Do we really need a project using macrolanguage code, where all of its member language codes are either having separate test projects, or already having Wikipedias for years? Specifically for the lah:

  1. Southern Hindko (hnd) - test project
  2. Northern Hindko (hno) - test project
  3. Jakati (jat) - test project (but claimed "Jatki" which cause another RFD above)
  4. Pahari-Potwari (phr) - test project
  5. Western Panjabi (pnb) - pnbwiki exists
  6. Saraiki (skr) - skrwiki exists
  7. Khetrani (xhe) - test project

--Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 00:59, 14 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

Wp/jat & this be deleted because macro languages are not allowed. same case is for Wp/bal. Sraiki (talk) 17:19, 14 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
I'm not discussing Wp/bal due to verification debates in the past months, see 1, 2, and 3. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 23:29, 14 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
Ok, If Wp/lah is remained, what will be its dialect. so be deleted. also wp/jat be removed because code is not correct. Sraiki (talk) 15:32, 15 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Liuxinyu970226 Dear, As per request of creator of Wp/jat be removed. or it may be moved to Wp/lah. Please do as soon as possible Sraiki (talk) 07:04, 2 January 2025 (UTC)Reply
@Sraiki There's already a jat related discussion above, anyway I'm not an admin so I can't delete anything. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 07:06, 2 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

Wn/kk, Wn/sah, Wn/tt

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These projects are already on Russian Wikinews 151.135.197.56 13:47, 4 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

Tend to support deletion of Wn/kk per the rejected RFL, which as only having little substubs before RFL rejection, there are merely no benefit for having a separate kk.wikinews. Eventually, it currently has no pages. (Someone would say that there's second open RFL, but its creator Bauka0625 didn't create anything except their own user page here)
The later two were discussed in 2019 which result no consensus, of which Tatar Wikinews has its RFL verified as eligible, I'm not sure whether there's really benefit for second trial of RFD em. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 00:35, 5 January 2025 (UTC)Reply
  Support I support the deletion of the projects as per the request. Besides that, these projects have never been active in the incubator since their creation.--ꠢꠣꠍꠘ ꠞꠣꠎꠣ (talk) 08:15, 5 January 2025 (UTC)Reply
@ꠢꠣꠍꠘ ꠞꠣꠎꠣ The last Tatar one may be a sensitive question as, again, its RFL is verified as eligible, I contacted a user who voted keep in that 2019 DR, that has several contributions to Wq/tt. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 10:24, 8 January 2025 (UTC)Reply
"Delete" (in scare quotes because no use of the MediaWiki deletion functionality is involved here - the page will really be replaced with a pointer) wn/kk as empty. Delete wn/sah, which only contains a main page and no other content. Inclined to delete wn/tt, which only contains a Main Page and one news article from 2020, as well, but not as strongly convinced. In any case these can be recreated if there's a movement to develop the project outside of Russian Wikinews.
Once these are deleted, we need to decide what to do with the domain names https://kk.wikinews.org, https://sah.wikinews.org, https://tt.wikinews.org.
Inclined to redirect https://tt.wikinews.org -> https://ru.wikinews.org/wiki/%D0%90%D0%BB%D0%B3%D1%8B_%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82, https://sah.wikinews.org -> https://ru.wikinews.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D2%AF%D1%80%D2%AF%D0%BD_%D1%81%D0%B8%D1%80%D1%8D%D0%B9, but redirect https://kk.wikinews.org to https://ru.wikinews.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B8:%D0%9C%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE%D1%8F%D0%B7%D1%8B%D1%87%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D1%8C (the project page explaining Russian Wikinews' multilingual initiative) since there isn't even a Kazakh Main Page. Although even the first two are very dead. And for all three domains redirect https://tt.wikinews.org/wiki/foo -> https://ru.wikinews.org/wiki/Foo. Pppery (talk) 20:03, 12 January 2025 (UTC)Reply
@Pppery I think for 3rd one, once we indeed gain consensus to delete, we might need to discuss with langcom members on whether its RFL's eligible status should be revoked. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 03:42, 13 January 2025 (UTC)Reply
The project should remain in-theory eligible. I'm effectively saying to do a soft delete - delete the nearly-empty test currently there without prejudice against a new movement for starting a test if one forms. Pppery (talk) 03:43, 13 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

Wp/omp

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I would like to propose the deletion of Wp/omp (Ancient Meitei Wikipedia) because Wp/mni (Manipuri Wikipedia) has already been approved. The Wp/omp project has been inactive since May 2021. It seems that the "omp" content can be accommodated in Wt/mni, and the resources may be a better fit for Wikisource. I would like to hear more opinions from the community on this proposal. --ꠢꠣꠍꠘ ꠞꠣꠎꠣ (talk) 11:42, 16 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

Migrate to Incubator Plus, then delete Nothing else to say, as a historical language, it violates LPP. If contributors want, they can just contribute mniwiki. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 00:01, 22 January 2025 (UTC)Reply
can be deleted or merged 🐲 Lu ꯋꯥ ꯍꯥꯏꯐꯝ (talk) 15:36, 30 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

Wp/ruo

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Project contains only six articles, each of which contains only the title or title with a translation into another language. The main page contains only one sentence in Istro-Romanian. Таёжный лес (talk) 17:40, 24 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

Neutral That rejected RFL was wrongly claiming "Morlakian", where Istro Romanian has 1,400 speakers (of which 300 of them are L1 speakers), contact hrwiki users first? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 07:40, 27 January 2025 (UTC)Reply
  • Keep so what. What are the benefits of deleting this? There's 0. Leave the project, and if one day an Istro-Romanian speaker comes, even if it's in 2040, they'll have a project to work on. Maybe they would not know otherwise how to create an Incubator project or that they can in the first place. We already missed a chance to attract an Istro-Romanian speaker [6] because no Incubator existed (they never responded to my comment just one month and a half later [7]). Why'd you want that number to be any higher?
By the way, I wasn't even warned of this deletion request by the nominator. It had to be another user 3 days later. Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 18:28, 27 January 2025 (UTC)Reply
And what are the benefits of wasting server space now? When they come they can easily re-create the project. 5.183.29.95 11:33, 29 January 2025 (UTC)Reply
Hahaha. Not ever has an editor cared about "wasting server space". This is the problem of the wealthy [8] [9] Wikimedia foundation, not yours. Tell me, how does it affect your experience as a reader and/or editor that this project exists in its currently very basic state? It is obvious that a newcomer user will not know how to create an Incubator project. If I or any other don't find them in time to guide them, we just lost another potential native speaker editor. All so that we could save server space on the free, volunteer website. Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 17:54, 29 January 2025 (UTC)Reply
  • Keep It seems to me that there are native users of this language community within Wikimedia who try to contribute to the wrong project. However, they are unable to find Wikimedia Incubator. I can relate to this, as some of my community members often write Sylheti in neighboring language projects, and their contributions get reverted (for example: edit and revert/removal) because it’s the wrong language (for neighboring language project). They are unaware that they can contribute to the incubator. --ꠢꠣꠍꠘ ꠞꠣꠎꠣ (talk) 10:25, 11 February 2025 (UTC)Reply

Pages of Wt/fil

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Filipino Wiktionary has been deleted 176.89.3.13 12:18, 28 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

Wp/gml

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Historical language. The project has only main page 31.143.85.148 15:55, 3 February 2025 (UTC)Reply

  Support deletion. Таёжный лес (talk) 09:57, 8 February 2025 (UTC)Reply

Wp/chg

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Extinct language. It has only main page. 31.142.17.39 17:37, 5 February 2025 (UTC)Reply

  Support deletion. Таёжный лес (talk) 09:57, 8 February 2025 (UTC)Reply

Wy/war, Wt/hil, Wy/pag, Wy/ilo, Wt/ilp, Wy/cbk-zam...

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Please review Wy/war, Wt/hil... as multiple empty pages have been created by a user—requesting deletion or replacement with a “To be created” template. --ꠢꠣꠍꠘ ꠞꠣꠎꠣ (talk) 20:23, 16 February 2025 (UTC)Reply

  Done. — Garcez (talk) 04:40, 17 February 2025 (UTC)Reply
  This section is resolved and can be archived. If you disagree, replace this template with your comment. — Garcez (talk) 04:40, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

Non-deleted pages of created wikis 2

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I propose to delete pages from Special:PrefixIndex/Help talk:Wt/ckb, as suggested 31.143.95.183. Пан Хаунд 2 (talk) 09:02, 17 February 2025 (UTC)Reply

I deleted the 1 page there. --MF-W {a, b} 09:46, 17 February 2025 (UTC)Reply
Thank you. Пан Хаунд 2 (talk) 10:15, 17 February 2025 (UTC)Reply
Can you also delete here: https://incubator.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex?prefix=Template+talk%3Awy%2Fid&namespace=0 https://incubator.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex?prefix=Wp%2Fmos&namespace=14 https://incubator.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex?prefix=Wp%2Fkge&namespace=14 ? Пан Хаунд 2 (talk) 10:36, 17 February 2025 (UTC)Reply