Welcome to the Wikimedia Incubator! At the right there are some important links, and here are some tips and info:

  • If you haven't created a user page yet, please create one with for example babel templates on it.
  • You can select your interface language in your preferences.
  • If you make articles, templates or categories, don't forget to add a prefix!
  • If your knowledge of English is good, you can help with translating pages to other language you know, so more people can understand it!
  • If you want to translate the interface, please go to Betawiki, create an account and follow the instructions you will see.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask it on my talk page.

Greetings, Romaine 18:26, 29 March 2010 (UTC)Reply

PS: Een aantal pagina's uit de Help- en Wikinews-naamruimte van Wikinews-nl moeten nog worden geïmporteerd, dus daar kun je nog rode links van tegenkomen. Groetjes - Romaine 18:45, 29 March 2010 (UTC)Reply
Bedankt. HenkvD 18:47, 29 March 2010 (UTC)Reply

Babel categories



I'd have couple points to your current work:

  1. I am not convinced it is necessary to create categories, which are empty (= no users of such language or its level exist). It just clutters the wiki.
  2. It is definitely not good thing to create categories with invalid ISO 639 language code.
  3. It is not the best idea to put {{User foo}} templates in those categories, since it breaks effective usage of tools like Special:WhatLinksHere applied on that template. Also, to me it seems they are being put into categories in quite random way.
  4. If for some odd reasons those templates have to stay there, then although {{Template:Foo}} works, please use {{Foo}} instead.
  5. As far as I can see on Incubator:Administrators‎, you have been granted test-adminship, not the regular one (which reequest for you withdrawn). Then you should not do admin actions elsewhere than on Wn/nl. I know you have been the only author of that category, but there are some rules set, and they have to be followed. Please keep that in mind, thank you.

Thanks for cooperation.

Danny B. 18:27, 3 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

I agree with your points, but bear in mind:
  1. categotries are empty now because the {{User foo}} don't always put in the category (I will update those later)
  2. I will try to figure out wich ISO 639 are valid and not. All categories I am creating have some form of {{User foo}}
  3. I added {{User foo}} (randomly) for the 'empty' categeries, that is where teh template does not add the category yet
  4. I agree {{Template:Foo}} is my mistake
  5. I aksed for (full) adminship, but it turned out I don't need that for this actions. In my request I specifically mentioned these kind of actions.
As the babel categories are a mess, and since this wiki is a very mulilingual wiki I thought I could help. I intend to continue if you don't mind. HenkvD 18:44, 3 May 2010 (UTC)Reply
  1. I'd suggest to fix the templates first. Then you'd see which categories are needed and which not. (But do not create templates which won't be used though.)
  2. Yup, some of the templates are bad and will be deleted as well as appropriate categories. Before creation of categories, please check any public list of ISO 639 codes or even the Main Page with its list can be helpful.
  3. I'd discourage you to do so. But if you could explain any serious reason, I may agree with that then.
  4. Np, happens...
  5. Yup. I just meant it as friendly reminder, that you have only test-adminship granted ATM, so you should not be doing admin actions outside Wn/nl. We need to play fair. You can of course request regular adminship later on in case you'll realize you'd need it.

And sure, please continue. You do good job. I just wanted to clarify some things and save you some unnecessary work as well. Have a nice day.

Danny B. 20:35, 3 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

User language vs. Babel


Why do you change the Babel template to User language on others' user pages? Normally,this should not be done. --MF-W {a, b} 14:58, 16 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

The User language templates are much easier in use and maintenance: only one template and one category per language. I don't alter the user pages much, it is merely adding the User language templates. For reference I keep the babel templates inactivated. The layout and the meaning stays the same. HenkvD 18:16, 17 May 2010 (UTC)Reply
It would be nice if you'd announce such major changes in the future to see if someone disagrees with it. --MF-W {a, b} 14:14, 20 May 2010 (UTC)Reply
Noted. HenkvD 14:24, 20 May 2010 (UTC)Reply
I do object against putting the "user language" templates on my user page, because they are uglier than bable. --OWTB 13:01, 22 May 2010 (UTC)Reply
I agree, their look is indeed improvable. --MF-W {a, b} 16:41, 22 May 2010 (UTC)Reply
How do you like these color scheme Template:Wn/nl/User language? Feel free to improve. HenkvD 18:40, 22 May 2010 (UTC)Reply
I appreciate all the work you're doing, but colors are not so great, maybe you could take your inspiration in terms of colors here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_colors. --Eko 18:59, 22 May 2010 (UTC)Reply
The problem is that they look rather skinny, the colours are dull and the white border around the babel boxes is really missing (though of course these do not necessarily have to be problems, it's more the reason why I like babel more personally). --OWTB 20:40, 22 May 2010 (UTC)Reply
Babel user information
fr-N Cet utilisateur a pour langue maternelle le français.
fr-4 Cet utilisateur dispose de connaissances proches de la langue maternelle en français.
fr-3 Cet utilisateur dispose de connaissances avancées en français.
fr-2 Cet utilisateur dispose de connaissances intermédiaires en français.
fr-1 Cet utilisateur dispose de connaissances de base en français.
fr-0 Cet utilisateur n’a aucune connaissance en français (ou le comprend avec de grandes difficultés).
Users by language

fr-N Cette personne a pour langue maternelle le français.
fr-4 Cette personne peut contribuer avec un niveau quasi-natif de français.
fr-3 Cette personne peut contribuer avec un niveau avancé de français.
fr-2 Cette personne peut contribuer avec un niveau intermédiaire de français.
fr-1 Cette personne peut contribuer avec un niveau élémentaire de français.
fr-0 Cette personne ne sait pas communiquer en français.
fr-X invalid fluency level (see documentation).
I now used the colors of en:Template:Userbox-level and added a spacing between boxes. How does this look to you? HenkvD 06:58, 23 May 2010 (UTC)Reply
They still look skinny. --OWTB 08:35, 23 May 2010 (UTC)Reply
At Template:Wn/nl/User language I now updated the height and font sizes to match the babel look. HenkvD 11:27, 24 May 2010 (UTC)Reply
That looks good. I think we should use this layout on the standard Template:User language. --MF-W {a, b} 17:03, 24 May 2010 (UTC)Reply
  Done HenkvD 17:36, 25 May 2010 (UTC)Reply



Hello, your test-adminship for wn/nl will expire on 26 April 2011. You can reapply for it (extend it by one year) on Incubator:Administrators. Thanks, SPQRobin 22:11, 20 April 2011 (UTC)Reply

I am hardly present here. And there is no action on wn/nl. HenkvD 18:36, 11 May 2011 (UTC)Reply



Hallo! Ik zag dat je vroeger een hele tijd actief was op Wikinews. Na enige discussie in de Kroeg op Wikipedia zijn we er sinds 19/01 opnieuw mee begonnen. Voorlopig zijn we nog niet met veel, alle hulp is welkom om het project van de grond te krijgen. Groetjes, Livenws (talk) 22:54, 2 February 2017 (UTC)Reply

Ik was vooral actief als moderator. Mijn ervaring met nl.wikinews, toen nog als echt project, was dat nieuwe gebruikers slechts enkele dagen, soms weken actief blijven, maar dat er nooit een community actief was. In de incubator was dat nog minder. Het was niet mijn idee om nl.wikinews te sluiten, maar toen dat voorgesteld was heb ik daar om bovengenoemde reden wel mee ingestemd. Ik bewonder je doorzettingsvermogen, en zie dat er momenteel wel enkele gebuikers samenwerken. Ik vraag me echter af hoe lang dat stand gaat houden. Toch wens ik je veel succes. HenkvD (talk) 09:34, 3 February 2017 (UTC)Reply
We zijn intussen wel enkele jaren verder en met de opkomst van de 'opiniemakende journalist' is er toch nood aan een neutrale objectieve nieuwsbron, heb ik van verschillende mensen mogen vernemen. In ieder geval bedankt voor het complimentje. We zullen zien hoe het draait, proberen kan alvast geen kwaad. En wie weet komt het wel uit de incubator, ik heb al heel wat ideeën mogen ontvangen die Wikinews een nieuw elan kunnen geven. Groetjes, Livenws (talk) 20:54, 3 February 2017 (UTC)Reply