Category_talk:Wp/cop/Ϩⲁⲛⲭⲱⲣⲁ
What names should we use for Scandinavian countries? My proposals are:
- Sweden – ⲓⲥⲟⲩⲉϭ or ⲥⲟⲩⲉϭ (from Turkish)
- Norway – ⲛⲟⲩⲣⲃⲉⲕ (Turkish and Arabic)
- Denmark – ⲧⲁⲛⲙⲁⲣⲕ
--ⲡⲁⲣⲇⲁ (talk) 00:50, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
ⲥⲟⲩⲉϭ for Sweden is indeed not unlikely, if we assume that the Copts would have gotten the names via the Turks/Ottomans (who in turn often got the earlier names from Slavic). Although it could also have been ⲥⲃⲉϭ, given the pronunciation of v in Turkish. ⲥⲟⲩⲉϭ would imply an Arabic pronunciation.
ⲛⲟⲣⲃⲉϭ maybe for Norway? Again, from Turkish. And ⲧⲁⲛⲙⲁⲣⲕ or ⲧⲁⲛⲓⲙⲁⲣⲕⲁ for Denmark? Although, let's wait a bit, I try to find more information.
Maybe we will get opinions from other people too. ⲁϩⲙⲉⲧ (talk) 01:14, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
In my opinion:
- Sweden: Either ⲥⲟⲩⲏⲇⲓⲁ or ⲥⲟⲩⲏϭ
- Norway: ⲛⲟⲣⲃⲉ/ⲏϭ (although this is an inconsistency: why is it ⲥⲟⲩⲏϭ, but ⲛⲟⲣⲃⲏϭ ?) maybe ⲛⲟⲣⲟⲩⲉ/ⲏϭ
- Denmark: ⲇⲁⲛⲓⲁ (ⲧⲁⲛⲓⲁ) or ⲧⲁⲛⲙⲁⲣⲕ Ϯⲙⲉⲗⲗⲓⲥⲏⲧ (talk) 15:09, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
- Let's summarize:
- Sweden – ⲥⲃⲉϭ
- Norway – ⲛⲟⲣⲃⲉϭ (I prefer these to those with "ⲟⲩ" cause it represents Turkish pronunciation better and it's actually easier to pronounce but you may disagree)
- Denmark – ⲧⲁⲛⲙⲁⲣⲕ
If everyone's fine with these, let's stick to them then and move the articles? --ⲡⲁⲣⲇⲁ (talk) 21:24, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
- I'm fine with the names as such, but maybe we should discuss the orthography. First, I was kind of indifferent but now I think ⲏ instead of ⲉ (which is a very bright vowel) would be better and more expectable. Ϯⲙⲉⲗⲗⲓⲥⲏⲧ (talk) 05:32, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
- Hmm, good question. I think it is indeed better. ⲥⲃⲏϭ. ⲛⲟⲣⲃⲏϭ. I don't think it is easier to pronounce than ⲥⲟⲩⲏϭ etc, but it is OK. ⲁϩⲙⲉⲧ (talk) 14:46, 20 May 2018 (UTC)