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Unable to create a page

The abuse filter says to me:"invalidcode" but the Yandang have a code, and this code is yan— The preceding unsigned comment was added by 197.61.9.13 (discussion • contribs) --Syunsyunminmin (talk) 05:00, 9 January 2023 (UTC).[reply]

Not an admin, but I'm not sure which one language are you asking for? Yandang refers to Yendang language (iso639-3:ynq), not iso639-3:yan which is a dialect of Sumo, both are from distinct language families. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 03:17, 22 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Request for page-moving w/o rd

Could I have the ability to move pages without leaving a redirect? Some pages in the Dargin project mix Latin and Cyrillic (primarily using the Latin vowel I for palochka), and should be cleaned up before it goes live.

Also, I tried JS Wiki Browser here, but it just spins w/o doing anything. Do I need special permission? It doesn't say I do, as it would on other sites. Kwamikagami (talk) 22:37, 21 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Kwamikagami Hi, Test-administrators are allowed to move a page without leaving redirect within their test project. You can request for it if the requirements are met. Ninja✮Strikers «☎» 13:24, 4 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wp/lut/Common.css

Hello, I want to change the font-family for headers in Wp/lut because it is causing display issues with the default font.

I put code that I think will do that in MediaWiki_talk:Wp/lut/Common.css. Could someone take a look and create MediaWiki:Wp/lut/Common.css?

You can see an example of the display issues in the headers for the sləx̌il and q̓il̕bid pages. AdJHu • 胡安祝 22:48, 21 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@AdJHu: I'm not sure if it prints out the way you want. Would you like to check it? --Sotiale (talk) 12:51, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Sotiale: Thanks, that fixes the issues I saw with the “x wedge” and “glottalized l” characters. There’s probably a font that makes the kerning for the apostrophe in glottalized characters look better but I’ll look into that in the future. AdJHu • 胡安祝 13:50, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

{wq/sw}Unable to publish

Hellow am trying to publish a new article in the wikiquote swahili but it is being block. kindly may you assist Frank kisamo (talk) 19:04, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Frank kisamo Hi, may I know more detail info for the block like blocking messages or something? Ninja✮Strikers «☎» 13:16, 4 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Unable to create Wp/cnr/ page

Hello! I want to add some more pages to Montenegrin Wikipedia, but I'm getting an error: "You are trying to create a page without a valid ISO 639-1 or -3 code. This code either is not valid or does not belong to a language accepted for new Wikimedia projects. If you came here from any other page, please return back and fix the link and then create the correctly named page. If by any chance this is blocking you from creating any page which you think has a valid ISO 639-1 or -3 code or belongs to an accepted language, please let administrators know."

 
error screenshot

Montenegrin language has valid ISO 639-3 code, check here or here. Also, there is already 1,968 articles with wp/cnr prefix.

Please, explain what is going on and how to enable adding pages to this Wiki. Thanks! Millodarka (talk) 22:05, 4 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This also got reported at phab:T330029 --AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 22:39, 20 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, could you add this file in Wp/sjd/Common.css?

https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Wp/sjd/Common.css Kaarkemhveel (talk) 11:44, 8 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

About The 'juc' code

I tried to create Wp/juc with related subpages but the system doesn't allow me to do it. The code is for the en:juc language. Could somebody help please?Sdf (talk) 08:59, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Because juc is classified in ISO 639-3 code as an extinct language, editing on incubatorwiki is blocked. Since this was decided in June 2022, the juc pages created before that exist. --Sotiale (talk) 10:30, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
And Wp/zkt is as well? Sdf (talk) 11:13, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Since zkt is currently classified as a historical language, it is blocked for another reason. Under the current LPP, historical and extinct languages at least cannot have Wikipedia. --Sotiale (talk) 12:17, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

wikilove icons

i see wiki-love icons are broken.

 

Sakura emad (talk) 09:08, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

User talk:FuzzyBot

Please protect this page: Nonsense content. Tryvix1509 (talk) 08:56, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Done with semi-protection for one month. Ninja✮Strikers «☎» 09:44, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please enable adding new pages to Montenegrin Wikipedia

Hi there, me again.

There was no reply on this one https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Incubator:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Unable_to_create_Wp/cnr/_page, so I posted the same question on a few different places (here and here).

I got answer on Phabricator and it pointed me back on Administrators' noticeboard.

So, please can you change the filter as suggested? Or, if the Syunsyunminmin is not right about the solution for this problem, explain what is happening and how to fix it.

Thanks! Millodarka (talk)

I think "cnr" meets Language_proposal_policy.
  1. Wp/cnr doesn't have a wiki yet. (Special:SiteMatrix)
  2. cnr is a valid ISO code[1].
  3. cnr is Individual, not Macrolanguage.
  4. The filter is preventing it.
Are there any policies that I don't know about? Syunsyunminmin (talk) 13:31, 21 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It's disallowed because Montenegrin is not recognized as an eligible language. A 5th request (after 4 rejections already) is open but unlikely to be accepted. --MF-W {a, b} 22:14, 21 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

So, are you saying Montenegrin Wiki can't be developed any further in the incubator? Millodarka (talk) 22:37, 21 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @MF-Warburg!
Hope you can be a bit more elaborate and precise in your reply...
How and where you see exactly *(reference missing) it is not recognized as an eligible language?
Where do you see (non) likeliness being *(an official) feature and process stopper?
Thank you very much!
--Zblace (talk) 07:15, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello I blocked by spamfilter

trying to create Wp/pt-pt/Página_principal says the urlis wrong Wkperson10 (talk) 20:56, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, because pt-pt is not a valid code according to the policy. There is already a Wikipedia in Portuguese, you are welcome to edit there instead. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 08:26, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

KH Khmer Code

It is not letting me create a KH Khmer page for wikipedia. Яйс (talk) 16:15, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oops I just found out it already exists, sorry! Яйс (talk) 16:20, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The handling of Wp/izh

Good evening. I've been trying to edit the Ingrian Wikipedia test in the last few days, and I've noticed a lot of systematic errors present in most pages - grammatical mistakes, usage of Finnish borrowings where a native term already exists, stub entries with nothing but "X is a letter" etc. Now, I would be more than willing to help out (as witnessed by my recent contributions), but the sheer amount of pages to fix (683!), and considering the fact that even on the main page there are some very basic grammatical errors (Wikipedias instead of Wikipediaas, terve instead of tere), and that the article about Ingrian itself is a copy-paste of a grammar book, makes this a nearly insurmountable task.

I'm not sure what the best course of action would be here. Should we start again? Should we try to fix it all? Neither seem ideal. From what I can see, I'm the only somewhat active editor at the moment. Is there any precedent for handling these situations?

Thanks in advance. Thadh (talk) 19:21, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Thadh: Sorry about that! Most of the top contributor (in terms of number of edits) to the Ingrian Wikipedia are so-called "language hijackers" (people who claim to know a language but really don't) that are now either permanently blocked or inactive. There is a change they may actually all be sockpuppets of the same person. It seems like a huge mess, to be honest.
I have a proposal for you that is sort of mid-way between fixing everything and deleting everything: We make a (temporary) template called {{Wp/izh/Keep}}, and you can add that template to pages that should be kept. Once you think it is ready, we can delete everything that is not marked by that template.
This proposal will require a bit of manual work on your part (since you're the one who knows the language), but I think it could be done rather quickly. What do you think, does that sound like a possible solution? An alternative would be to mark stuff that should be deleted with {{delete}}, but given the ratio of pages that should be kept vs. pages to be deleted, I think it would be easier to mark the ones that should be kept. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 02:27, 13 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Jon Harald Søby: Yes, that sounds like a great solution, thank you! Thadh (talk) 07:33, 13 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Help to create Wp/vjk/Main Page

Please help to create Wp/vjk/Main Page for Bajjika Wikipedia. It has valid ISO Code vjk as per https://www.ethnologue.com/language/vjk/ The request has been placed in Meta as well. But while creating, this message is displayed, "vjk" Wikipedia (unknown language code). Thanks Angpradesh (talk) 18:55, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The ISO 639-3 code you presented was approved on January 20 of this year. So it hasn't been reflected here yet? @MF-Warburg: Could you please help me with this procedure? --Sotiale (talk) 05:52, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The edit filter has been adjusted. --MF-W {a, b} 08:41, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wb:ie

Hi! I would like to request help to move the articles from the Interlingue Wikibooks to the Incubator as there is community that will start working on this project. --Caro de Segeda (talk) 17:25, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Also, the system says that I am trying to create a page without a valid ISO 639-1 or -3 code, when there is already a Wikipedia in Interlingue with its ISO-3 code (ie.wikipedia.org). --Caro de Segeda (talk) 17:59, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The edit filter has been adjusted. --MF-W {a, b} 09:18, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much. Caro de Segeda (talk) 09:21, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wp/ja-simple

I tried to create a "Simple Japanese Wikipedia" and named the project "ja-simple" in accordance with the French version of the project name. However, the language code "jp-simple" does not exist, so I could not create it as an ordinary user. Please create the project as the project may not be as simple as the simple-French version. Thank you (I am not a Japanese speaker, so the sentence may seem a bit puzzling).--Kouichi Fan (talk) 11:24, 24 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You have already been informed on the Community Portal that new simple projects are not possible. --MF-W {a, b} 11:52, 24 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"Nrn" ISO 639 code

The code "Nrn" isn't working, but it is assigned to the Norn language. Due to this, a Norn test Wikipedia can't be created, so something will have to be done. That Northern Irish Historian (talk) 00:19, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Reporting vandalism

Dear administrators,

Sorry for the inconvenience, I am contacting you about a user that I reverted for vandalism in case of the SWMT, that spams me on my incubator talk page and doing vandalism on your wiki, can you help me ? She also created my user page to vandalized it (if it's possible to delete it). Here the account, User:XENONISM.

Best regards, ShifaYT (talk) 12:41, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

+1, please intervene TenWhile6 (talk) 14:08, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The user also attempted to manipulate this message. TenWhile6 (talk) 14:11, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  Comment - I did minimal blocking until the regular admin came in. Syunsyunminmin (talk) 14:19, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Block for The Destructor of Everything

Leonidlednev (talk) 15:07, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

WRONG!!! it is YOU who are the vandal mr leon!!! how DARE you try and revert my constructive edits by adding in blatant VANDALISM!!! you my friend, will face the WRATH of THE DESTRUCTOR!!!!
DESTRUCTOR OUT!!! The Destructor of Everything (talk) 15:50, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  Comment - I blocked for one day until handled by a regular administrator. Syunsyunminmin (talk) 15:55, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Block for trolls

Leonidlednev (talk) 16:29, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Comment - I blocked The Destructor of Wikis for one day until handled by a regular administrator. Syunsyunminmin (talk) 17:14, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Create Main Page

Hi, I need help by creating the page Wp/crh-ro/Main Page. Zolgoyo (talk) 19:54, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

crh: already exists. crh-ro is not eligible for a separate project. --MF-W {a, b} 11:28, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
What's the problem actually, the code? Zolgoyo (talk) 19:05, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wikivoyage Nepali

Trying to create pages for Wy/ne, but upon saving it says, "you are trying to create a page without a valid ISO 639-1 or -3 code." could someone please help sort it out? Kind regards, — Tulsi 24x7 09:45, 24 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Tulsi: Sorry about that, that was a misbehaving abuse filter. It should be fixed now. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 11:09, 25 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. \o/ — Tulsi 24x7 13:39, 25 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Template talk:Test wiki/639-3

The wiki won't let me create a page here. Rich Farmbrough (talk)

It cannot be created because it is a page without a prefix. What did you want there? Syunsyunminmin (talk) 16:45, 24 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I was going to leave a comment to the effect that the translation from 639-1 to 639-3 is flawed, there is no concept of a macrolanguage in 639-1. I really can't see why discussion pages shouldn't be edited. Rich Farmbrough (talk)
@Rich Farmbrough: Sorry about that, it is a quirk of the WikimediaIncubator extension. If you change your "test project" in the preferences to "(maintenance)", you should be able to create the talk page. I've filed a bug about this and will try to fix that when I have time for it. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 11:02, 25 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Rich Farmbrough (talk) 20:19, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Block for 189.202.29.69

Leonidlednev (talk) 04:19, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Comment - IP is already Gblocked. Looking at the history of Incubator talk:Administrators/Archive1, it would be a good idea to semi-protect it indef or long term. Syunsyunminmin (talk) 19:11, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protect for Incubator talk:Administrators/Archive1

Please semi-protect Incubator talk:Administrators/Archive1.
Reason: excessive vandalism. Syunsyunminmin (talk) 16:59, 10 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think there's no use. This way these edits not caught by the abuse filter at least appear on watchlists. --MF-W {a, b} 09:36, 11 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It is very unfortunate that the LTA cannot be captured by the filter. However, The only history on this page for the past 3 years is vandalism and its revert, not just recent LTAs. Additionally, this page is an archive; IPs do not need to be able to edit it. Syunsyunminmin (talk) 14:33, 11 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

41.217.50.177

Reason: LTA. Syunsyunminmin (talk) 14:29, 13 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Can't create a page on a test wiki for a language with ISO code

I can't create a page in Montenegrin, ISO code is 639-2 and 3 [cnr] but it won't allow me. Blu145 (talk) 17:41, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This matter is already discussed above where an administrator denied at the moment. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 04:17, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I saw that but his response was very unprofessional. If there are established rules on Wikipedia, you cannot just express your personal opinion that something "is not a recognized language" when it literally has a valid code and 250,000 speakers. Blu145 (talk) 06:42, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semiprotect Wp/izh/Stalin

Could one of the local admins semiprotect Wp/izh/Stalin please? It's being targeted by a persistent LTA who uses a VPN. Blocking the individual IPs doesn't do much good because he just gets another. Thanks in advance - Antandrus (talk) 16:13, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Done Syunsyunminmin (talk) 16:59, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong in Main Balochi Language(bal) writing articlr

I tries to wrote article in Balochi wikipedia incubator but i cant to publish article because its forbidden i think, I request to Incubator administrators to accept writing in Balochi wikipedia(bal)

Our team is trying to developement of Balochi language in web and wikipedia is in our programs. Moshtank (talk) 06:14, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This is because bal is defined as a macrolanguage. See Wp/bal for the languages contained in it. --MF-W {a, b} 09:30, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Balochi is not a macrolanguage i as a Baloch and with native Balochi language and i a researcher of Balochi language know that Balochi is not a macrolanguage and we for writing just use one Balochi not three macrolanguages
Its our langugae and its our rights that write and reads in Balochi language, but you that dont know a little things about our langugae saying us about our language?
Moshtank (talk) 05:05, 23 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Moshtank Balochi is not a macrolanguage? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 01:41, 5 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Liuxinyu970226 Yes, is not.
Moshtank (talk) 04:59, 6 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Moshtank Then it's a matter at SIL depart, you'll need to submit a request to deprecate member language codes and design Balochi (bal) as an Individual code. Otherwise, there's probably nothing Incubator can do. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 05:04, 6 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Liuxinyu970226 thats true i has contacting with them!
Thanks!
Moshtank (talk) 05:11, 6 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Liuxinyu970226 Until SIL accept our request we will work on bcc
If you can please help us and fix Wp/bcc/بیتکوین issues.
Moshtank (talk) 05:13, 6 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Liuxinyu970226, @Xaosflux,
I have contact with SIL registrars they told me we can use bal as an inclusive ISO639-3 code for Main Balochi
This is their Email text to us;
《Dear Mr. Kohgardi,
The identifier [bal] is a 639-3 code inclusive of the three other Balochi languages. Have you tried to use it?
There is no option to create this, as it already exists, so there is nothing further I can do for you.
Kind regards,
Janell Nordmoe》
Moshtank (talk) 04:31, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Liuxinyu970226, @Xaosflux,
and in other email in a paragraph they told us;
《There is already a code for Balochi macrolanguage, Baluchi [bal]. So we do not need to create one. It is a 639-3 code, as well as 639-2, and it includes the three other Baluchi languages. So, if you are referring to writing or literature for all three languages, please use [bal].》
Now here you saying us you cant to allow to use [bal]
Moshtank (talk) 04:37, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not interested in this discussion, please stop pinging me. Xaosflux (talk) 15:27, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Xaosflux Who can to help us?
I have tierd actually with some admins here
Moshtank (talk) 17:25, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Moshtank Ditto for me, please stop pinging me, otherwise I'll report you for abusing this function plus, when possible, ask for a block for your account! SIL issues shall be handled on SIL department, not this website. (Anyway, for Wp/bal project, since it has only some hundreds contents, I'd prefer to merge it into Wp/bcc, do anyone against this idea?) Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 03:27, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry if you were you offended by me.
My Bro or Sis
Balochi is our language and i as a Balochi writer preffered [bal] ( inclusive code of Main Balochi ) you must to merge [bcc] to [bal] not [bal] to [bcc]
If you can merge do it and move contents from [bcc] to [bal]
thanks!
Moshtank (talk) 03:57, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Moshtank Let me tell you that why "you must to merge [bcc] to [bal] not [bal] to [bcc]" isn't possible (at least, without several efforts on changing MediaWiki source codes themselves): the Eastern Balochi Wikipedia test shown why to you, because many of their contests use Latin scripts (or Roman, if you'd love to say) instead of Arabic scripts. (PS: Looks like there's now a discussion on langcom mailing list [3] about nearly all of what you asked everywhere.) Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 07:04, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ofcourse [bcc] is just a dialect of [bal]
We creating articles in [bal] for [bcc] because @Amire80 tells me use [bcc] till langcom accept [bal] as an supporting language and again translates and articles can to move to [bal]
I told all of Balochi dialects just different in speakings and voices and all of Balochi writers using Main Balochi as a complette language.
So you must move or copy articles from [bcc] to [bal]
And its true some Balochi writers in web using Roman Scrip that we can use [bal-latn] for that and i request [bal-latn] on Translate project
Moshtank (talk) 04:30, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Block request

Please block 2A02:4780:1:17:0:0:0:E (talk | contribs) due to abuse on Incubator (I have reverted their edits). 64andtim (talk) 19:39, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Done Syunsyunminmin (talk) 06:01, 28 July 2023 (UTC)== Can't create a page on a test wiki for a language with ISO code ==[reply]

I can't create a page in Montenegrin, ISO code is 639-2 and 3 [cnr] but it won't allow me. Blu145 (talk) 17:41, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This matter is already discussed above where an administrator denied at the moment. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 04:17, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I saw that but his response was very unprofessional. If there are established rules on Wikipedia, you cannot just express your personal opinion that something "is not a recognized language" when it literally has a valid code and 250,000 speakers. Blu145 (talk) 06:42, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semiprotect Wp/izh/Stalin

Could one of the local admins semiprotect Wp/izh/Stalin please? It's being targeted by a persistent LTA who uses a VPN. Blocking the individual IPs doesn't do much good because he just gets another. Thanks in advance - Antandrus (talk) 16:13, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Done Syunsyunminmin (talk) 16:59, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong in Main Balochi Language(bal) writing articlr

I tries to wrote article in Balochi wikipedia incubator but i cant to publish article because its forbidden i think, I request to Incubator administrators to accept writing in Balochi wikipedia(bal)

Our team is trying to developement of Balochi language in web and wikipedia is in our programs. Moshtank (talk) 06:14, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This is because bal is defined as a macrolanguage. See Wp/bal for the languages contained in it. --MF-W {a, b} 09:30, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Balochi is not a macrolanguage i as a Baloch and with native Balochi language and i a researcher of Balochi language know that Balochi is not a macrolanguage and we for writing just use one Balochi not three macrolanguages
Its our langugae and its our rights that write and reads in Balochi language, but you that dont know a little things about our langugae saying us about our language?
Moshtank (talk) 05:05, 23 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Moshtank Balochi is not a macrolanguage? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 01:41, 5 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Liuxinyu970226 Yes, is not.
Moshtank (talk) 04:59, 6 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Moshtank Then it's a matter at SIL depart, you'll need to submit a request to deprecate member language codes and design Balochi (bal) as an Individual code. Otherwise, there's probably nothing Incubator can do. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 05:04, 6 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Liuxinyu970226 thats true i has contacting with them!
Thanks!
Moshtank (talk) 05:11, 6 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Liuxinyu970226 Until SIL accept our request we will work on bcc
If you can please help us and fix Wp/bcc/بیتکوین issues.
Moshtank (talk) 05:13, 6 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Liuxinyu970226, @Xaosflux,
I have contact with SIL registrars they told me we can use bal as an inclusive ISO639-3 code for Main Balochi
This is their Email text to us;
《Dear Mr. Kohgardi,
The identifier [bal] is a 639-3 code inclusive of the three other Balochi languages. Have you tried to use it?
There is no option to create this, as it already exists, so there is nothing further I can do for you.
Kind regards,
Janell Nordmoe》
Moshtank (talk) 04:31, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Liuxinyu970226, @Xaosflux,
and in other email in a paragraph they told us;
《There is already a code for Balochi macrolanguage, Baluchi [bal]. So we do not need to create one. It is a 639-3 code, as well as 639-2, and it includes the three other Baluchi languages. So, if you are referring to writing or literature for all three languages, please use [bal].》
Now here you saying us you cant to allow to use [bal]
Moshtank (talk) 04:37, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not interested in this discussion, please stop pinging me. Xaosflux (talk) 15:27, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Xaosflux Who can to help us?
I have tierd actually with some admins here
Moshtank (talk) 17:25, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Moshtank Ditto for me, please stop pinging me, otherwise I'll report you for abusing this function plus, when possible, ask for a block for your account! SIL issues shall be handled on SIL department, not this website. (Anyway, for Wp/bal project, since it has only some hundreds contents, I'd prefer to merge it into Wp/bcc, do anyone against this idea?) Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 03:27, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry if you were you offended by me.
My Bro or Sis
Balochi is our language and i as a Balochi writer preffered [bal] ( inclusive code of Main Balochi ) you must to merge [bcc] to [bal] not [bal] to [bcc]
If you can merge do it and move contents from [bcc] to [bal]
thanks!
Moshtank (talk) 03:57, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Moshtank Let me tell you that why "you must to merge [bcc] to [bal] not [bal] to [bcc]" isn't possible (at least, without several efforts on changing MediaWiki source codes themselves): the Eastern Balochi Wikipedia test shown why to you, because many of their contests use Latin scripts (or Roman, if you'd love to say) instead of Arabic scripts. (PS: Looks like there's now a discussion on langcom mailing list [4] about nearly all of what you asked everywhere.) Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 07:04, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ofcourse [bcc] is just a dialect of [bal]
We creating articles in [bal] for [bcc] because @Amire80 tells me use [bcc] till langcom accept [bal] as an supporting language and again translates and articles can to move to [bal]
I told all of Balochi dialects just different in speakings and voices and all of Balochi writers using Main Balochi as a complette language.
So you must move or copy articles from [bcc] to [bal]
And its true some Balochi writers in web using Roman Scrip that we can use [bal-latn] for that and i request [bal-latn] on Translate project
Moshtank (talk) 04:30, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Block request

Please block 2A02:4780:1:17:0:0:0:E (talk | contribs) due to abuse on Incubator (I have reverted their edits). 64andtim (talk) 19:39, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Done Syunsyunminmin (talk) 06:01, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Request to Create Test Wiki for Kawi (old Javanese) Wikipedia

I am about to create a test wiki for Kawi or Old Javanese Wikipedia, but unfortunately the ISO 639-3 for Kawi language which is "kaw" does not detected by the system. This project is tend to reuse and revive the liturgical language of Kawi on Wikipeda.

The profile of the Kawi language can be found here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Javanese

Case study for relevant project is Sanskrit Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanskrit_Wikipedia Ilham.nurwansah (talk) 07:51, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Ilham.nurwansah: Hello! Wikimedia's language proposal policy doesn't allow extinct/ancient languages, which is why you can't create any pages in that test wiki. Note that some ancienct language editions of Wikipedia existed before that policy came into place, and it does not work retroactively, but it is very unlikely that any new ancient language editions will be approved. Sorry. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 13:22, 21 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Old Saxon article

I cannot create another article in the Old Saxon test Wikipedia despite there being other articles in it. That Northern Irish Historian (talk) 15:38, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@That Northern Irish Historian: Hello. Wikimedia's language proposal policy doesn't allow extinct languages like Old Saxon. The info page for the Old Saxon Wikipedia Incubator was erroneously marked as "open" instead of "rejected"; I have updated its status accordingly. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 13:20, 21 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Jon Harald Søby But there are still existing pages prefixed as "Wp/osx/"? Shouldn't they be also deleted? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 11:11, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe move to Miraheze? That Northern Irish Historian (talk) 02:48, 24 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Feel free to migrate, afaik. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 03:31, 26 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semiprotection from LTA

Hi - could one of the local admins please semiprotect Wp/rmn/Lačharibaskoro kontesti‎ and Wp/na/Adolf Hitler? These are being targeted by a persistent LTA. He uses a VPN so blocking the individual IPs doesn't do much good. If you could revdel some of the more deranged and abusive edit summaries that would be good too. Thank you in advance - Antandrus (talk) 16:30, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Done Syunsyunminmin (talk) 16:35, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Common.css for Wp/bdr and Wp/dtp

Hello! I would like to request the creation of MediaWiki:Wp/bdr/Common.css and MediaWiki:Wp/dtp/Common.css with content from MediaWiki talk:Wp/bdr/Common.css and MediaWiki talk:Wp/dtp/Common.css respectively. Thank you. Ultron90 (talk) 13:26, 24 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. Please explain what they are needed for. Also, if I see it correctly, you have not yet contributed to Wp/dtp. Do you have any connection with the community? --MF-W {a, b} 16:12, 24 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hello. I am currently trying to provide both communities with templates for infoboxes and have found that Common.css is needed for the infoboxes and other templates to function properly (correct me if I am mistaken). The current active members of both communities are a part of smaller groups within Wikimedia Community User Group Malaysia and I have agreed with them offline to help with templates. If you need further verification from members of both communities or require that I also contribute to Wp/dtp as a prerequisite, I am open to do so. Ultron90 (talk) 03:11, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the explanation, I have moved the pages. --MF-W {a, b} 21:20, 27 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Blanking

Please why do continue making my publishing in the Moore Incubator difficult, anytime I create and want to publish I get notification that the page is blank because I deleted when I haven't. Please fix this issue quicklyAlhaj Darajaati (talk) 15:15, 26 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It seems you are indeed trying to blank pages: Special:AbuseLog/36391 --MF-W {a, b} 19:51, 27 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Alhaj Darajaati: Have you been experiencing this problem lately? If so, could you let me know which browser (and browser version) you are using? Jon Harald Søby (talk) 12:30, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Common js for Wn/bn

Dear administrators, Is it possible to add this JavaScript code (or only the 'develop' part of the current version) to 'MediaWiki:Wn/bn/Common.js'? (Script by Syunsyunminmin) Thank you. Asked42 (talk) 08:16, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This is for an easy submit function designed to submit an article for review. While I understand that Bengali Wikinews may not currently be very active as a test, this tool could be valuable in simplifying the article creation and submission process. Asked42 (talk) 08:17, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Asked42: I have added it, with a few minor changes. Please let me know if anything is not working as it should. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 12:45, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It is working fine. Just a request, would it be possible to change the text 'প্রতিস্থাপন' to 'নিরীক্ষণের জন্য জমা দিন'? Asked42 (talk) 14:18, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Just something I noticed: on mobile, the button works as a link to edit the page, while on the desktop version, everything is fine (without installing script). Asked42 (talk) 16:50, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Could someone kindly take a moment to review the matter and requests? Thank you. Asked42 (talk) 16:40, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Resignation

Good day all, I have resigned as a local administrator earlier in the day as I'm inactive and don't see any strong reasons for me to keep the local rights. I will continue to serve the community in the capacity of a global sysop, and as a local translation admin, and hope to see you guys soon :) --Minorax«¦talk¦» 12:20, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Minorax: Thanks for your help and service so far! :-) Jon Harald Søby (talk) 13:03, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wp/kri/Josef Stalin

Please protect this page because of frequent vandalism by LTA. --Ameisenigel (talk) 09:31, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semiprotected for one year. -- MF-W {a, b} 08:10, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Copy request

Hello, can anyone copy these pages into the following respective pages?

After that, copy these lines to the middle of MediaWiki:Wy/id/Common.css:

/* Estilos para Plantilla:Portada:Ticker, Plantilla:Portada:Ticker/Core y Plantilla:Portada:Ticker/Data */

.ticker-container { height: 36px; overflow: hidden; border:1px solid #A9A9A9; border-left:none; border-radius:0 3px 3px 0; } .ticker-text { height: 150%; 

   white-space:nowrap;
   display:inline-block;

}

.inicio-ticker { 

 text-align: center;
 float: left;
 font-size: 100%;
 color: white;
 background: #808080;
 padding: 3px 10px;
 -moz-border-radius: 3px;
 -webkit-border-radius: 3px;
 border-radius: 3px 0 0 3px;
 height: 32px;
 display:table;

} .inicio-ticker b { display: table-cell; vertical-align: middle; }

After that, copy these lines into MediaWiki:Wy/id/Common.js:

//Ticker de la portada var width = $('.ticker-text').width(), 

   containerwidth = $('.ticker-container').width(),
   left = containerwidth;

$(document).ready(function(e){ function tick() { 

       if(--left < -width){
           left = containerwidth;
       }
       $(".ticker-text").css("margin-left", left + "px");
       setTimeout(tick, 8); //El número indica la velocitat (Més petit més ràpid)
     }
     tick();

}); //END Ticker de la portada

Sorry for the long message, you can see it by the source-editor if it's confusing.

Thank you. Veracious (talk) 04:02, 2 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Veracious: Sorry, I thought I had already done this. Done now. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 10:50, 2 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Jon Harald Søby That's okay. Thank you. 🙏 Veracious (talk) 06:30, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Copy request (2)

Hello, can anyone copy these pages into the following respective pages?

Thanks. Veracious (talk) 05:17, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Veracious: We could do that, but it wouldn't have any effect. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 13:56, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Jon Harald Søby It wouldn't hurt to try, right? 🤭 Veracious (talk) 03:18, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Prefix problem

I am experiencing difficulty editing this page, Wn/bn/উইকিসংবাদ:সংবাদ কক্ষ. Upon saving, an error message is displayed, indicating that it lacks a prefix. This issue is also occurring on some other pages. Asked42 (talk) 13:53, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Asked42: Hi! Could you tell me a bit more about this error message, like copying the text from it? Also, are you able to save the page, or does saving not work when you get this error? If you want, you can upload a screenshot of the issue to Wikimedia Phabricator and post a link here. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 14:42, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I encounter an error message when attempting to save any changes. The error message is as follows:
"The title most probably lacks a prefix or is in another way in an incorrect format (uppercase letters in the prefix, trailing slash, etc.). If you arrived here from another page, please return and correct the link, ensuring it has the correct naming format. If you are trying to create a new page directly, please ensure it has a proper name. If you believe this issue is preventing you from creating a page with a correctly formatted title, please inform the administrators."
Additionally, the following message is displayed: "Error: This page is unsigned! (In contrast) you can create pages named Wn/bn/Wn/bn/." (translated). Asked42 (talk) 14:50, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Just noticed that I could make edits in mobile mode, although in the desktop version, it still shows the prefix error. I guess the mobile version edit will work, since there's no other option. Also in mobile mode, revert is not possible, will create a blank page. (history). Asked42 (talk) 18:06, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I see. It may be happening because of the <inputbox>. I tried removing the <inputbox> code, and the edits were successfully saved. However, when I include the <inputbox>, it appears that the page mentioned in 'default' parameter is being created upon saving any edits. Pages containing this "diff" are exhibiting the prefix/blank-page problem. Am I using it incorrectly? Asked42 (talk) 09:12, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I made a empty edit and created a different page. Maybe it is a bug. Syunsyunminmin (talk) 14:43, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
My subaccount (眠春眠春) can edit it. But I (Syunsyunminmin) create different pages. Something strange seems to be happening. Syunsyunminmin (talk) 14:51, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I want to have the xml of Phoenician Wikipedia

I think Phoenician is a beautiful language. It is the first language to have a fully fledged alphabet. 84.65.190.94 14:59, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on how you look at it), there was never any actual content in the Phoenician test Wikipedia (Wp/phn), so there is nothing we can make an XML dump from. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 08:04, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
What about ancient Egyptian? 85.255.235.197 18:02, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
As far as I can tell, no pages were ever created for the Ancient Egyptian test Wikipedia. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 15:06, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Is ISO:ycr active?

I look up the list code of ISO:639-3, the code ycr of Yilan Creole is still active. But when I’d like to create Wp/ycr, the screen pops up the sentence: “You are trying to create a page without a valid ISO 639-1 or -3 code.”. I wanna to know what’s wrong with this system. --Sdf (talk) 13:46, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Sdf: The code was only added to ISO 639 recently (January this year), so it had not been added to our list of accepted codes. I have added it now.
Do you know this language at all? It is not a good idea to create a test wiki in a language you don't know. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 14:07, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

SIL language codes

Hi there, does someone know something about SIL? They did not posted the Proposed Changes now. Zolgoyo (talk) 11:33, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Zolgoyo: I asked SIL for this question in the last month, and this is what their staff responded:

There will be a revision of 639 published in the coming weeks which will modify the change request process. In anticipation of this, we will not be publishing the requests submitted in 2023 yet, as we expect that to be done in collaboration with an ISO 639 Maintenance Agency.

Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 12:05, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, this was helpful! Zolgoyo (talk) 14:40, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Inquiry about a problem

Hello everyone, I am trying to publish or edit articles on (Wikivoyage Arabic) in the Arabic language by adding texts in the Arabic language only. I repeatedly see the phrase (You are trying to create a page without a valid ISO 639-1 or -3 code.)

How can this problem be solved? Osps7 (talk) 17:18, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Osps7: Hi! Can you share the URL to the pages you're trying to create? E.g. the URL that's in your browser's location bar when you edit pages. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 19:10, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Test-adminship requests

Hello, are there any bureaucrats available to grant test-adminship? There are several requests (including mine) at the Incubator:Administrators#Current_requests_for_test_adminship section that need attention, as some have not gotten a response since October. Thank you. Ultron90 (talk) 11:37, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please revdel

https://incubator.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Incubator:Community_Portal&diff=next&oldid=6127726 Thanks. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 23:07, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 23:38, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Pages in Category:Maintenance:Delete with the reason "inaccurate language"

User:2001:999:2A8:5C:88C6:EA3B:A402:58C0 and User:84.231.98.188, probably User:Olivechan00, put some pages from Wp/lud, Wp/izh and Wp/vot to be deleted for "inaccurate language". They also posted a notice in Talk:Wp/lud/Piäsivu and Talk:Wp/vot/Päälehto that edits from seven editors not to be trusted. As I'm not a native to those languages, I can't decide whether to delete or not for those pages. Any comments are welcome. Ninja✮Strikers «☎» 12:06, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The deletion requests seem trustworthy (ref. this thread), and it is commendable of the person behind this mess to try and fix their mistakes. I will delete the tagged pages. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 12:22, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Great. Thanks! Ninja✮Strikers «☎» 07:51, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Explanation for page deletions

Hello. I'm the person who put a bunch of pages for deletion on Wp/izh, Wp/vot and Wp/lud respectively. As made clear by the above thread, I'm trying to fix the mess that was left a few years ago on these wikis, in which a former partner and I caused the wikis to be filled with inaccurate language, because neither of us actually knew the languages correctly. And to make things worse, a lot of the pages were copied and (badly) converted to Cyrillic at Wp/vot. I obviously regret this hugely, and thus I wanted to try and clean up some of the mess. However, I've also done the mistake of not logging in, causing the deletions to be questioned. Could you please go forward with the deletions? And yes, there are a LOT of pages, the mess left was that bad.

Thank you very much! Do not interact (talk) 09:28, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Don't worry, we will get around to deleting them, it just takes a bit of time. And thanks again for helping to cleanup. --MF-W {a, b} 15:03, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Can't create a page on a test wiki for a language with ISO code

I can't create a page in Old Japanese Wp, ISO code is 639-3 [ojp] but it won't allow me.--MO.SH.ST.SB (talk) 06:13, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wp/ojp cannot be created because it is an extinct language and does not meet the language proposal policy. Syunsyunminmin (talk) 11:55, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Classical Japanese is still used in literature, including haiku, so it is not an extinct language. MO.SH.ST.SB (talk) 00:53, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
For Wikisource projects only, languages without native speakers are allowed. Syunsyunminmin (talk) 01:10, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think there aren't any native speakers. MO.SH.ST.SB (talk) 08:57, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
In addition to what Syunsyunminmin said, this user seems using a duck-puppet account User:MO.SH.ST.BE at I:RFD, so I doubt if I'm still able to discuss this matter peacefully. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 06:47, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion requests at I:RFD

Hello, this is User:Gameoverbits speaking. I can't access this account currently, so I'm writing this out of account. Anyway, I have put the test wikis Wp/vot and Wt/vot up for deletion, due to these wikis being mostly built by non-proficient speakers and there really being no other way out due to the extremely low numbers of proficient speakers (21 natives, possibly all elderly). Wt/vot also has all of its pages currently deleted, so there's really no reason in keeping it. It's been some time without any response, so please get to it as quickly as possible. Thank you very much. 84.231.210.199 06:01, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Are you the same guy who claimed having contributed without language knowledge in the past, and who keeps losing access to the accounts he uses for the deletion requests? --MF-W {a, b} 18:43, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Is this somehow relevant to the discussion? The reason why I'm making this request is because it seems like no proficient speaker seems to have ever contributed to these tests (like shown here) and that it doesn't seem good to keep things the way they are due to this. Of course, I can't know everything for sure, but this is simply how it seems like at the moment. And I'm by no means doing this just for fun, I just simply don't see any better options. This situation worries me quite a bit, and I want to do something about it. 2001:999:2E2:583:88C6:EA3B:A402:58C0 19:50, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I think it is relevant to know why new accounts that are interested in these projects keep popping up (and keep losing their access to return as IPs) and are so insistent that everything needs to be deleted now, immediately, when the projects have been sitting untouched for years. --MF-W {a, b} 00:27, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Then yes, this person is me. I simply don't want to have five different accounts lying around, and I think my past with the project gives me a good reasoning as to why I'm so worried about all of this. However, I did not lose this one account on purpose, and I want to retrieve it. Please also understand that none of this account stuff was done with any malice, I'm just extremely stupid, and it was 100% a mistake having all those accounts. Currently, I do not want or need to use any more than just one. I also understand that this might make my requests less believable. It was, again, 100% a mistake to do all of this, and at this point I honestly don't care if I get permanently banned for it, I don't really like being here anyway. Just please take these proposals seriously. 84.231.210.199 03:48, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Do you even regret causing this many problems for other people, for lying even when faced with proof of what you were up to, and repeatedly trying to cover your tracks by using sockpuppets? Your responses in this thread so far just seem to be about you don't want your name tied to the mess you've created. And while we can clean up the mess you and your friend(s) have made on the incubator, there is still the matter of all the other garbage you've added to other Wikimedia projects. I hope you're planning on getting that stuff nuked too. A big thanks to the other person on here who has asked for deletion requests; they seem to be genuinely sorry for what they did and take responsibility for it, for which I thank them. - Yupik (talk) 02:27, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry, are you talking about User:Do not interact or User:Palmtree222, or possibly someone else? I'm the former, not the latter, and my personal "account business" only has to do with the deletion requests, and I don't personally recall any of the stuff you said, I think we might have a misunderstanding here. I do not know who you are and what this drama is all about, I was not present when any of this might've unfolded.2001:14BB:692:ABDE:5CAD:7F9E:F46A:41E6 12:45, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Why isn’t)t it letting me make lipid open at Toki Pona?

I want free knowledge accesible to (almost) any language, why isn’t Toki Pona accepted? Abrown1019 (Talk/Edits) 23:28, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

FYI, this is a constructed language, and a Meta-Wiki request submitted for two years: m:Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Toki Pona 2. Can someone tell us that whether langcom is discussing its eligibility or not? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 06:02, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Another view statistics link

Can this link be used for MediaWiki:Pageinfo-footer since the current link is not active?

[https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/?project=incubator.wikimedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&range=latest-30&pages={{FULLPAGENAME}} Page view statistics] Asked42 (talk) 14:49, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done, thanks for the suggestion! --MF-W {a, b} 02:25, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. Asked42 (talk) 12:19, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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